atheism in a sentence
For those of you not aware, there’s a lively discussion about whether paedophile priests are a homosexual problem over at Catholic Truth Blog. On this post you can learn that heterosexual men would never abuse boys, that when priests were saints the Catholic church never had this problem, that the only Christian church that can get you into heaven is the Catholic one, that you can’t feel safe in a church that is under 400 years old because it’s too far removed from Jesus and a whole host of other ‘facts’.
You can also find a paragraph explaining what atheism is:
Atheism – The belief that there was Nothing, and Nothing happened to Nothing and then Nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything, and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self –replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.
I quite liked that sentence and decided to have a reciprocal go at describing Christianity:
Christianity – The belief there was a deity created by Nothing who made the existence we inhabit in seven days, ignored the human population of the world for 4000 years except to invisibly order around a tiny group of people in the Middle East, frequently inciting murder, rape and even genocide, then decided to benevolently come to earth in the form of his own son as a sacrifice to himself for the bad behaviour of all human beings, but for the next 1500 years was not available to anyone in America, Australia, or most of Asia and Africa.
Anyone got a better sentence?
I saw that…I thought of silly representations of christianity. It seems many are content to argue with their misconceptions instead of seeking the best/trues representation of the opposing point of view. FAR too much work involved. 😉
I liked your answer to the original op. I got in rather late and was linked to the comments and didn’t even realize what the entire thing was about!
How much easier to turn it into a witch hunt for gays than to admit there could be a problem with abstinence….and religion….
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The comments are utterly bizarre, aren’t they? One thing that struck me as particularly odd for such obviously staunch Catholics, is there’s a fair bit of criticism aimed at their pope – which I’ve never heard from that side before. Hatred of gays trumps love of their leader, or even belief he’s divinely appointed it seems.
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Now I know why I call some of these people ignoramuses, because how does one help such a person.
I can only add to yours: christianity is the belief that the deity separated night from day before he created the sun, that he created man from dust, and got tired on the sixth day requiring rest for saying let there be and for no good reason either directly or indirectly committed genocide, infanticide and mass abortions and had Job tested just to test his ego!
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Poor Job, he was a pawn in showing off to Satan, wasn’t he? Because that makes sense.
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I would hate to be Job any day, a pawn in the game of egos!
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If that person didn’t attribute that as a quote then they’re a dishonest dick. Excuse my language, but that’s been floating around in Christian memes for years.
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I’m seriously surprised! It’s so embarrassingly poor, I assumed it was made up on the spot. Where’s your sentence? Go on, bet you can do a great one!
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Rather then a sentence, how about a picture?
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(ashamed to admit I don’t understand it! does that make me a Christian??)
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No, of course not. That is the equation and proof that shows the existence and distribution of Cosmic Background radiation. A part of the big bang theory’s predictions were almost exactly bang on when scientists were finally able to make observations with new equipment. Another description can be found here.
I’m sorry for not communicating clearly.
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”
1. Atheism – The belief that there was Nothing, and Nothing happened to Nothing and then Nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything, and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self –replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.
2. Christianity – The belief there was a deity created by Nothing who made the existence we inhabit in seven days, ignored the human population of the world for 4000 years except to invisibly order around a tiny group of people in the Middle East, frequently inciting murder, rape and even genocide, then decided to benevolently come to earth in the form of his own son as a sacrifice to himself for the bad behaviour of all human beings, but for the next 1500 years was not available to anyone in America, Australia, or most of Asia and Africa.
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I like both the descriptions
Thanks
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Then there’s a pedophile goat herder who had a visit from an angel who mind-melded and gave him the Qur’an.
Now this is a story we should believe, right?
Islam is the religion of maniacs.Always remember this….
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Please improve you comments with reason content.
Thanks
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Ah, sorry, you have never heard of Mohammed?
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Please give good arguments; no ridicule or foul words would reach me.
Regards
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You have stated that Christianity and Atheism are both false positions based on false claims and worldviews that believe in superstition.
Whether I agree or disagree is immaterial, you have offered NO evidence to back these claims, merely inflammatory statements with no citation and no evidence to back them either.
Yet, you believe in a prophet, Mohammed who is said to have made outlandish claims concerning a god, and a visit by an angel called Gabriel.You offer no evidence,, merely citing the doctrine contained in a book, the Koran, which you claim is the literal word of this god.
If you have any evidence to back this claim then please present it. If not then you are worse than those you criticize and little more than a hypocrite.
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I want your arguments.
Can you ever write without ridicule and foul words?
I am waiting for that time.
Thanks and regards.
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My argument is perfectly valid.
I do not understand why you think it is not?
You denigrate atheism and Christianity yet your own faith is based on principles you deride.
You believe in superstition yet they claim they are divine.
And offer NO evidence.
If you wish to have an intelligent discussion then offer a reason – any reason – why an atheist or a christian must take your position seriously.
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If you’re interested Ark, Paarsurrey has just given some of his ‘evidence’ on another post:
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Hey, i just found this on FB. Must be god guiding me!
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I actually quite like it because all the nothings doing something seem infinitely more probable than one of the man-made god’s doing it.
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I think Christianity represents itself quite well without our description. Reading the bible is like reading the journal of a psychopath.
‘Nuff said.
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You’re right. It’s insane to claim it’s the work of one benevolent deity. Several deities with various approaches to morality perhaps. Doesn’t make quite as convincing a story …
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Have you been back tot heir site? I have been summarily banned! 🙂
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Couldn’t see that coming! 🙂 Are you spammed or have you been politely asked to leave?
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Haha, just read her final comment to you. She’s pretty funny for all her nutty beliefs.
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No, not really funny. A complete dickhead. And some of those wacko groupies of hers are the pits.
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*lost the argument strop* 🙂
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Your answer to everything.”Yippee…The Ark lost!” ..you’re just sexist.
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You just hate losing to girls!
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Long as I get make-up sex, I don’t care…
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Oooh, your lucky wife!
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Well…modesty prevents and all that. 🙂
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Atheism: A belief that we can not assert unnatural entities, such as gods, are responsible for the existence of the material natural observable universe without any actual evidence of these unnatural entities.
Theism: A belief that even, if we have no other evidence exept contradicting traditional cultural heritance of anecdotal stories about unnatural entities, such as gods, there must have been unnatural entities causing the material natural observable universe.
It must be also added to this lone sentence, that the many different theist groups demand, that not only that anecdotal evidence is enough, but that only one particular anecdotal cultural heritage (namely most often their own) must be accepted, and that their particular anecdotal cultural heritage must be the cause of the universe, since it is unacceptable to them to recognize, that we actually do not know the cause of the material natural observable universe, if it is possible to define into existance an explanation to the existance of the material, natural, observable universe. And that this is the proof of the veracity of their particular anecdotal cultural heritage about unnatural entities.
It is so silly, really.
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Ooooh, your sentences are great Raut. Not that I’m surprised. I might save them up and quote you!
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Oh, you are wellcome to.
I tend to drag a bit behind in my comments to your posts. Often this is because we live in a bit different time zones, but sometimes it takes me time to process your thoughts. The fact that I find myself processing your posts so much, tells me how much thought there is in them. Thank you very much.
At first I thought, that the one sentense about atheism you quoted was so banale, that it was enough for you to laugh at it and that I really could not comment this. Then it really hit me. Is that honestly what some theists think that atheism is about. Perhaps not the dude who came up whith this joke one sentence originally, but such sentences and one-liners have a tendency to become memes people believe in. Not because the thought in it self presents any coherent idea, but because if a one-liner supports allready existing world view, then never mind the evidence for that one-liner to be true on any level. Such are often accepted at face value.
The less informed and less intelligent the reasons for a world view a person has, the more that world view is in need of one-liners and anecdotes to support it. Because our world views are part of our identities. It seems to me, that most world views are not built on reason and evidence by people themselves, but are ready made structures people are indoctrinated in childhood. The main difference being, if a person is able to question their own world view logically. Not all logical questioning leads to the same conclusions, though, because we are differently informed as individuals.
However, sometimes it is good to summarize thoughts even to one sentence type of attempts to find the core idea behind a thought. But as you see, I really could not achieve that whith theism. The absurdity of a belief is not pointed out by inventing stuff the other people really do not believe in, but referencing something they really do believe in. But it takes critical thinking skill to recognize such absurdities.
My sentences are not really summarizing the core beliefs of these ideas, but rather just humoristic, only a bit more accurate, attempts to respond to the original claim that atheists believe in nothing. I have run into this claim so often, that it is alarming. How stupid it makes the theists look like, especially since they seem unable to fathom the ridiculousness of the claim. They think it is stupid to believe in nothing, when in reality the actual joke lies in the fact that the one sentence incorporates a thought, that when a theistic belief has defined everything as the result of something outside the natural observable material universe, it then somehow results in, that the person who does not believe in that particular definition of this unnatural phenomenon (gods) believes in nothing. As if the material universe somehow suddenly had become unobservable. It is a joke that really makes fun of the person telling the joke, if they really believe what the joke says.
Your “Christianity in a sentence” is way better, because you are actually describing the tenets and beliefs of Christians, while the quoted sentence really did not manage to describe anything atheists really believe in. The question is, are Christians able to recognize the absurdity of these beliefs of theirs you listed?
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You’re right about the atheism sentence, I displayed it because it’s ridiculous, but then John told me it’s a commonly posted on Christian sites. It does make you realise how ingrained their beliefs are that such a plain sentence strikes them amusing. On the other hand, I’d be interested to hear a Christian explain why this god of all humanity was focused on one tiny group of people for most of existence (even by their count) and even when the offer of ‘salvation’ (from what?) was extended to the rest of the world, the rest of the world didn’t include even a majority of the world for the next at least 1500 years.
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I have one more: Atheism, the belief, that saying “we do not know” is more intelligently honest, than saying “god is mysterious”.
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