some rules for Christians on slavery and homosexual marriage
rules on slavery
1. Having slaves is fine and dandy and normal. Just make sure they’re foreigners.
Leviticus 25:44 “Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.”
2. You can beat your slaves as much as you want (your property after all, makes sense), just don’t kill them (I guess because that’s no way to treat your property!).
Exodus 21:20-21 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.”
3. If you’re a slave and your master is nasty (perhaps the type that beats you up to the point of death), the Christian god God wants you to continue in submission – it’s commendable!
1 Peter 2:18 -20 “Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. For it is commendable if someone bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because they are conscious of God. But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God.”
rules on homosexual marriage
1. The Old Testament is silent on the topic of homosexual marriage.
2. The New Testament is silent on the topic of homosexual marriage.
conclusion
Christians armed with a book they believe is written by the only creator god called God would be justified in owning other people as property; treating these slaves violently; and expecting theses slaves to remain silently in submission to their will.
Christians, like their holy book, should remain silent on the topic of homosexual marriage.
Post this message over at “The Cafe” 🙂
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Oh, nice idea! I expect Tom (?) will read it and do re-blog anyway. 🙂
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Tom, I forgot his name.
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You should pop over and say hello. He seems to be sending snipers in to reply to my comments on his posts from over six months ago (I can’t imagine random people reading posts that old and starting up the chat). I can scarcely keep up with my current argument commitments. He’s obviously dying for some atheist attention – go on, you’ll have so much fun! 🙂
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Important note: Christians who were willing to ignore parts of their Bible did participate in opposing slavery. That’s great. Doesn’t excuse you if you are a literalist.
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It’s just another illustration of what a flexible interpretation game reading the Bible is for Christians. Choose your opinion and easily find a passage to justify it. But the fact remains that they would be more religiously justified in owning slaves than they are in condemning gay marriage – and they all know this.
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Don’t blame slavery on God.
From the Greatest Commandment:
“Love thy neighbor as they self.”
God meets man at his level.
Since slavery was outlawed only about 150 years ago, man’s level is very low.
Marriage is ordered to human nature.
When you look out on a vast crowd what do you see?
“In his image he created them, male and female.”
That’s right.
It is obvious that human nature is male and female.
That makes homosexuality a disorder.
Marriage is ordered to human nature, not a sexual disorder.
So gay marriage is as ridiculous as marriage between two eunuchs or two celibates.
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“Don’t blame slavery on God”. Did you actually read the post? The silence in your mind is still drowning out all reason, logic and, it seems, ability to follow the conversation.
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It’s man’s sinful nature that makes us desire owning other human beings. All God did was meet us on our own level and say, “Ok, just don’t beat them till they die. That’s a sin. I’ll get back to you later on the actual owning of people part. Until that time, I don’t mind if… no, I encourage you to do it.”
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@ Violet, I think Silence of Mind makes your point for you here. So, he/she must have read it.
@Silence of Mind. As there are specific rules about eating pork, from the alledged creator entity, that no longer apply to Christians (for some reason, that propably is not the “love thy neighbour”), then there should be also specific rules about slavery – as there are, but equally about gay marriage. That is, if this god sees these as important issues. Yes? But there does not need to be specific rules about gay marriage, because homosexuals (at least gay men) should be stoned to death as the specific rules define. However, if the “love thy neighbour” applies to foreigners in the case of slavery and on homosexuals in the case of stoning to death, and there are no specific rules about gay marriage, then the gay marriage was not a moral, or even important question to this supposed god. Correct?
Christians seem to be able to infer a lot of rules from the Bible, all more closely related to their personal preferences, cultural heritage and down right demagougery, then on the specific rules mentioned in the book. Therefore, a god that lets such honest and sincere misunderstanding of the “holy scripture” to go about as truth and told to people as if his authority stood behind it, is either, a) evil, or b) uninterrested, or c) nonexistant. Or is there a fourth option? To me c) seems most likely, as this god has exactly the same quality as all the other gods, to only appear in anecdotal stories and nowhere in reality.
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Well done, sir
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Am not sure they will follow that advice
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Well, to be honest, I’d be very concerned if they followed the advice on slavery. With Christians, anything is possible!
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I don’t want them following these rules either. I want to them to stop saying their god is responsible for our morals, because then it means we do better than their supposed god
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OT: Did you take the picture of the butterfly? It’s gorgeous. You know I’m a bug person.
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Thank you! I love picture praise. 🙂 Didn’t realise you’re a bug person, I’ve got some great dragonfly shots. This is one of my favourites:
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Oh, wow. That one’s fabulous. The wings, the stick….
I’ve got a damsel fly as an avatar. It’s based on a photo I took. I’m not really happy with it, but I’m too lazy to improve it at the moment. I got some nice butterfly shots on the same day.
http://fojapenfrancais.wordpress.com/2013/08/16/weekly-photo-challenge-one-shot-two-ways/
I used to keep bees. There’s an alien beauty to insects that I just find captivating. Maybe they satisfy my intersection of scientific and artistic.
I used to post random pictures on my blog just to add color, but then I wanted to practice French, so I moved them to another blog.
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Really cool, love the photo of the lilypads from above to, lovely sheen. Bees make great photos too. I’ve never kept them but used to obsessively snap them on our flowers. I agree they are totally captivating and alien:
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That one’s great too. Love the detail, all the little fibers on both the flower and the bee.
May I ask what kind of equipment you’re using?
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It was just a standard point and shoot Sony Cybershot, pretty bog standard, but it takes great macro shots for some reason.
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Dragonfly is in Finnish sudenkorento which translates to “the wolves staff”. The biggest species we have is Ukonkorento which translates to “the old mans staff”, but in this case the “old man” (Ukko) refers to the thundergod of the ancient Finns.
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Interesting, I like the wolf bit, but the staff bit kind of lets it down. Dragonfly is much cooler.
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Yes, I agree. The word korento is actually something between a stick and a staff, but anyway it still is not nearly as cool as dragonfly. On the other hand, in English the dragon bit is cool, but the fly part, is a bit of a disappointment, however accurate it might be.
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But why oh why do you awful atheists have to pick on the bible so much? You need to learn to cherry pick the passages that can be easily interpreted to support your own personal view of the world and ignore the rest.
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*moment of revelation* Now I see the light!
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Hallelujah! 🙂
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Clearly the writings of, or inspired by, an omniscient deity. We have been blessed!
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Yes, the whole text reeks of benevolence. 🙂
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