the morality of creating life
To force the false right to a child for those who can not naturally produce one (heterosexual or homosexual) will create a modern day slave trade. [Hewhoshallnotbenamed]
Reproduction is a fascinating topic for me. I have never had the famed biological urge to reproduce. As a young adult, I had no expectation of ever having children and didn’t have the longing for children I’ve heard most other people experience.
So I was able to base my decision on breeding on pure logic. And in my early 20s, I came to the conclusion that it would be illogical to have children – I would be forcing an unconsenting being into existence. However, logic only took me so far in this decision-making. Love came into play, as the subject obviously affected both me and my boyfriend, and he had such a severe longing for children that our relationship continuing became cruel. After seven years, we split up.
Serendipity brought us back together after over a year on opposite sides of the planet. Love was stronger than logic for me after the pain of separation, and I also recognised that, however I feel about the crushing weight of responsibility, reproduction is a natural part of human life.
Now I’m the tired yet delighted mother of one unconsenting human being, trying and failing to make another human being. What have I learned about reproduction and parenting in this emotional and logical rollercoaster?
- I don’t tell anyone else if and how they have the right to be a parent.
My experience is unique to me, it doesn’t tell me anything about how other people approach parenthood, and it can’t be used to inform my opinion about whether other people should make, or parent, other human beings. I’ll leave that to the professionals: to the doctors, the social workers, the psychologists and the heath visitors. I’ll leave it to them to inform our law-makers about the most ethical and sensible guidelines our society can follow. But if at some point in the future we all decide it’s illogical to create new human beings, I’ll understand why. Until potential humans can sign a consent form, it does kind of seem unethical.
I had no interest in children either. Luckily I met someone (on the other side of the world) who also had no interest in reproduction. We are a total pair of sinners as we indulge in sex purely for enjoyment. Each to their own.
I took some pix of my lemon tree last week so recognised that blossom straight away. Don’t tell me you have lemon trees in the Frozen North?!
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Good blossom spot! Although the lemon in the background might have given it away. 😉
“We are a total pair of sinners as we indulge in sex purely for enjoyment.” Yikes, did no-one tell you it’s only allowed for procreation?!
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I love separating and getting back together stories 😀
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Oh come on, that’s incidental to core plot. It’s actually a gushily romantic story that I refuse to tell because people start saying things like ‘fate’ and ‘destiny’, which really pisses me off.
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Incidental but lovely. Out of the entire population of the world, with all our differences, when any two people manage to find each other and (happily) build a life together, I find it amazing.
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Oh, you old romantic! I find it thoroughly mundane and predictable. A solitary existence wouldn’t do much for our survival rates, that’s why loneliness feels so painful.
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I seriously think there should be tests for breeding eligibility.
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John, you’d make a scary Christian. I’m glad at least you’re on this side of the logic fence.
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Sure, it sounds pretty bad written that way, but i’m certain some bright spark wordsmitter can spin it to make people feel good about it 🙂
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I’ll apply. It goes on the lines of ‘We want to help you breed the right progeny with the best advantages in life . We will help you through your training programme (at a cost natch), give a full rigorous family background check which will enable to predict what sort of darling you will end up with, and at the end of this thorough procedure, you will receive an eligibility to breed (once) certificate.
‘After that we can provide excellent parenting tuition, and once you have successfully completed that, you will be eligible for a further certificate to re-breed, should you wish to pay and complete our refresher course.’
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Oh YES!!! That’s it right there!
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And that’s just the secular version. I don’t have the interest to write the
fairytalereligious version, although I would naturally sell my soul to thedevilGod for money. I wonder if there is a market there? If people believe in Christianity they will believe in anything, yes? Who is Pruett btw? (Over at Ms Bigot’s blog).I think I must work on my breeding eligibility certification scheme tomorrow and email my suggestions to
Dr FaustusMs Faust. Great idea, thanks for the inspiration.LikeLike
I don’t know who he/she is. I was hoping Pin k could tell me.
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I know you don’t actually read my posts, but your conclusion is the exact opposite of what I was saying in post. 🙄
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Oh, that’s a good Smiley. How do you do it?
Sorry, what were you saying? 🙂
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I don’t really like sharing secrets with you, but I got it from the comments section in one of Clare’s posts:
http://clareflourish.wordpress.com/2014/03/21/barronelle-stutzman/
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😳
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Tears too!!!!! 8-0
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Hey, that didn’t work. How do you do it? What’s the code, Wisp! Talk, or the bunny gets it
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Haha, you’re big numptie dinosaur. Love it!
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Granted, that’s not the first time i’ve heard that.
Hey, the folk over at askthebigot are lunatics, aren’t they?
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Why you ask?
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Because i’m presently in the middle of right wing Christian gang-bang shitstorm 🙄
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link!
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http://askthebigot.com/2014/04/03/im-coming-out/
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Oh no, I’m not going over there. I thought you meant somewhere else. I refuse to notch up their hit counter any more. Who’s annoying you most and I’ll let you know if I know them?
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All of them. I have the whole ugly, insane circus on my ass. Actually, the bigot herself hasn’t chimed in, but i guess she’s serving lemonade to her mentally deranged flock and toweling them down. It’s exhausting talking about homosexuals so much, after all 🙂
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Oh god, I’ll go over for a lurk in a minute. If I get dragged in I’m totally blaming you!
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They’re very, very, very strange people. So, they’re all posting from the same IP address, huh?
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Well, she denied it when I asked her but Pink still seems to think they are. I’ll just have a look at who you’re talking to …
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I’ve not seen some of those. Hewho is obviously the editor’s husband. I remember thinking Tisha must be a personal friend; Statisonline looks genuine; but can’t help you with any analysis of the others. Glad I’ve opted out (skim) reading that, but I might dip in for some quotes.
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Oh, I’m having fun. Will drop it all when it looses its shine.
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🙄
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Excellent! You’ve elicited a new definition of chaos from a duck:
When same sex marriage is undertaken for the purpose of securing property tax rights, the personal responsibility component of marriage is dilluted, begetting chaos in public understanding of what marriage is.
*Violet laughs on the sidelines*
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Oh, you’re going to just love my response 🙂
Is Duck a part of their church?
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It worked! It worked!!! I cracked your code!!!
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Speaking of bright spark wordsmitters, your latest comment to Tisha about abortion in the Bible is pretty impressive. You going to make a post round it? I love the idea of groups of Christians outside clinics with Numbers 5:11-21 proudly displayed.
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Hehehe. I was surprised she conceded the point that its not rational for a person to use scripture to justify their position. It sort of stumped me, and as she was polite, i left it at that.
I see you got in. I can understand not wanting to. Those people are insane, and spending too much time at their sick level is unhealthy.
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Quite.
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Apropos of nothing at all, here is a video I like:
Here is where I found it: http://wordofawoman.com/2014/04/04/youre-damn-right-i-believe-in-another-gospel/
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“God is not a man” and “HE loves everyone”. And HE EVEN loves all the weirdos like atheists, lesbians and communists? I see what it’s trying to achieve for Christian democrats in the USA, but personally, yuck (sorry) 🙂
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So good! I didn’t marry & have babies until my thirties. I have two boys, three years apart and I’m done! While I was still a Christian and had first moved to my house in Tennessee, my family was heavily involved in a Southern Baptist Church. We tried our best to have members over at our house to visit. I was continually encouraged to have another child! I adore babies and love my boys more than creamy, dark chocolate, but I desire to focus just on the two darlings I have now. I actually encourage my children to not marry. As much as I love being around little cuties, I make it known that they don’t have to have kids. Though my children are young and I’m a stay at home mom, my husband and I are atheists. We encourage non conformity in our house. Relationships should be as unique as the people who are in them. I admire people who are confident in their decision to not marry or to not have children. To go against the traditional norm is quite courageous.
Thanks for such an honest article.
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Thanks for your comment! “Relationships should be as unique as the people who are in them.” Absolutely, we should never expect people to live as we do, just because it feels right for us.
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Brilliant. I really must go read more of your older posts. So much great content missed /le sigh
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Thank you! 😀
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