askthebigot aka Katy Faust visits Australia to spread her religiously fuelled bigotry
The Author of my faith has limited marriage to a man and woman. He said the two, and only two, shall become one flesh in this union. (Katy Faust on askthebigot.com)
Australia is facing the legalisation of gay marriage quite a bit later than most of the rest of the western world, which is odd for a country that seems progressive in many other ways. The matter is still far from settled, with calls for a plebiscite or referendum in the next year or so.
So, Australia is the new playground for the Christian anti-gay brigade and their ‘loving’ version of denying people the right to marriage equality. Katy Faust is one such loving Christian bigot (who finds it ironic to call herself this on her blog, askthebigot.com).
Wife of an openly anti-gay pastor at a church based in Seattle in the USA, she for some inexplicable reason has flown to Australia to join the gay marriage debate down under. But for even more inexplicable reasons, she’s being given air-time.
Katy is playing the role of an “American academic raised in a same-sex household”. Let’s be clear about a few things:
- First and foremost, her “expertise” on gay parenting is completely informed by her strong religious beliefs – she believes all homosexuality is a sin.
There is NO “homosexual lifestyle” or homosexual behavior of any kind condoned in scripture. In fact, the ONLY sexual activity encouraged is sex within marriage between a husband and wife. (Katy Faust)
- Secondly, she is not the child of a homosexual couple, but the clearly bitter product of a broken home. Her biological parents divorced when she was 9 or 10 and only after that did her mother get together with a new female partner.
My parents divorced when I was in fifth grade. A year later my mother met and fell in love with her partner. (Katy Faust)
- Thirdly, she thinks homosexuality is ‘brokeness’ that can be cured by treating children differently.
Here’s my personal conclusion: people are not “born gay.” I think that there is a possibility that biology plays a modest role, but not necessarily a definitive role. I think social and emotional brokenness (hurt, rejection, trauma) contributes strongly to same-sex attraction. (Katy Faust)
As I’ve detailed in a previous post, Katy uses her loving-in-tone but vicious-in-message blog to campaign against gay people having fulfilling lives as part of the community:
She has campaigned to allow religious people to shun service to homosexual couples. She has encouraged people to hurt and insult their gay friends by refusing to attend homosexual weddings. She has campaigned to support Christian organisations to deny employment to homosexual couples.
I hope the people of Australia can see Katy as she is – the product of a disrupted childhood warped through the lens of religious bigotry. For more (and possibly uglier) information on Katy Faust, see Pink’s series.
I’ll never criticize Glasgow again 😀
There’s one point I haven’t mentioned yet out of courtesy, but I guess we’re past that now, and that’s the link between the Fausts and the ex-gay movement. There’s very little public mention on their behalf but I’ve received quite a few emails about Mr. Faust being involved ‘in a very personal way’ in the ex-gay movement. That raises its own series of questions.
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What is the “ex-gay” movement?
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That’s gay men who had the gay beaten out of them by Jesus. They ‘stopped’ being gay, they’re ex-gay 🙂
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That would be an interesting twist 😉
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Isn’t it just…
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I remember meeting some “ex-gays” through this ministry (Exodus International). http://exodusglobalalliance.org/
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Exodus is the group the Fausts have had dealings with.
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Oh! Interesting.
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Interesting link, thanks!
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I’ve been going through old posts and comments because it’s interesting that Bigot has moved her original charge of being unmasked by an “atheist conspiracy” to a “gay campaigner”. They clearly think through their strategy quite carefully – steering her identity away from being a primarily religious one.
I found this funny quote from you:
“I decided against discussions with askthebigot because she’s attempting to use fabricated controversy to further her internet notoriety. I’m not lending my name to that.” In March 2014 before you walked into her trap. 😉
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How stupid was that?
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You should send this to the ABC. Someone said today she’s going to be on Q&A.
My question is: how has the ABC fallen for this?
I think someone should ask them what “credentials” she sent them, because something just isn’t right here.
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I’ve emailed ABC and Di Natale of the greens with the documents regarding her cult.
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I sent an email asking them to supply the credentials she gave them.
Something smells.
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I’m still very interested to know who got her there. Who’s promoting her? Who’s hosting her?
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She’s with the International Children’s Rights Institute *choke*
http://internationalchildrensrights.com/
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The president of that ‘association’ is Robert Oscar Lopez. One of the people I’ve been mentioning and another secret commentator on her blog. He calls himself a not-ex-gay man. And explains it as being gay but choosing not to act on his sexuality.
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This is the president of her association:
http://www.hrc.org/videos/videos-export-of-hate-robert-oscar-lopez#1
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Here, you can contact the ABC on this page
http://www.abc.net.au/contact/contactabc.htm
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Monsieur Merveilleux has already done a great post to outline the flaw in her crusade’s reasoning. I shall be quite interested to note if anyone is doing anything to make sure the Australian public is aware of that Achilles heel.
As to what you’ve written here, I am beginning to think that perhaps Ms. Faust has a personal animus which is fueling her process. One direct message that ought to be known in Australia is that gay parents have loving families too. It is love that marriage equality is trying to recognize, and not hate.
At any rate, I hope Australia can move forward on marriage equality.
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“I hope Australia can move forward on marriage equality.” Absolutely, I’m sure it will. Some of us have been following and challenging the Bigot for over two years, she was ‘discovered’ by Clare Flourish.
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I’m visiting Australia just now and from what I see/hear on the news, it seems apparent that the general public is in favour of marriage equality, and feel that some politicians are way behind in their thinking. There has been a politician (can’t remember his name) calling for a referendum on the issue, and I’ve certainly heard the business about respecting religious beliefs . . blah, blah, blah . .. but I have the feeling that most Australians think, “Who cares, mate? What’s the problem; get on with it”
I just can’t think that this Katy Faust has any credibility with discerning thinkers.
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Yes Carmen I think you have discerned the mood of the Australian public well. There is a sense now that marriage equality is inevitable, it is just a matter of time.
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Hey pete,
Let me fix that for you.
It’s only a matter of time before tolerance for the depraved becomes the norm. There.
Without a standard sir, you may as well say blue is red, and orange is purple, after, all why should it matter…………..but to people who actually engage the brain, it does matter. ‘Feelings’ are irrelevant. The bubble of the level does not lie, and simply, two of the same is an unbalanced bubble, regardless of what people ‘feel.’
Marriage is essentially a union of opposites…………nut and bolt kind of thing………go ahead and join two of the same sex, but please choose another word. I suggest the tried and true French version: le mirage.
And the smokescreen of ‘tolerance’ is a sad tired song.
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Hi my friend, last year Christian groups ran a very vocal anti gay marriage campaign in Australia. I told a friend of mine who was a Christian Pastor that I felt the Church had made a mistake adopting this stance. My reasoning was as follows:
1) this was happening at a time when a Royal Commission was investigating child sex abuse, much of which had been committed by Christian organisations. It just made Christians seem like hypocrites when item one on the news bulletin was Christian opposition to gay marriage followed by item two, sexual abuse of children by Christians;
2) there should be a difference between the moral standards Christians chose to adopt themselves and those imposed on people outside the Christian community. The Christian witness is stronger if it reflects the actual moral behavior of their community, rather than a lecturing of others outside of their community;
3) the real battle was the legalization of homosexuality. The Christian community had lost that battle. The marriage issue is a logical follow up to that, why continue to fight a battle which has already been lost?
4) the church is better seeking a separation between church and civil marriage and seeking only to oppose Gay Marriage for the latter. In the early church many Christians were unmarried in the eyes of the state. This was because there were more high status women than high status men in the early church. It was unacceptable in Roman culture for a high status women to marry a lower status man. So many of these women married lower status Christian men in church ceremonies that were not recognized by Roman officials. So at the very start of the Church there was a separation between state marriage and official marriage;
5) science is increasingly suggesting that sexual orientation is not a matter of choice, which if true casts doubt on the Bible teaching on the issue of homosexuality.
I suggested to this pastor that the Church would be better to focus on ensuring that churches were not forced to adopt gay marriage services under its auspicious, i.e. restrict them to civil marriage. This latter point is lost on some, but to be a marriage celebrant, either civil or Religious requires a Government licence in Australia. If the Church gets on the wrong side of the politics they might end up with the situation where Marriage licences are issued only if the holder is prepared to marry same sex couples.
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Sorry I re-read this and point 4 was all muddled up. Hopefully you read what I meant rather than what I said. This is what can happen when one drops into ‘rant’ mode.
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One thing that stands out when you say:
‘why continue to fight a battle which has already been lost…………….’ in reference to the ‘legalization of homosexuality.’
Make it legal eh? Legitimize it huh? Make it normal.’
I refer you to my initial comment @ tolerating depravity.
Some people do not care what popular opinion is, after all, stealing, lying, cheating have always been considered to be harmless….
As I said, if you want to support ssm, go ahead, but pick another word…leave marriage alone.
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Make it legal eh? Legitimize it huh? Make it normal.’
A few years ago, Colourstorm, you would have been saying exactly this about mixed-race marriages in the US. Before that, women voting, and before that, slavery.
You’re on the wrong side of history, and reality.
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Sorry jz,
You have assumed incorrectly. ‘Mixed’ marriages do not bastardize the institution of marriage. Mixed, ie, as in male and female.
It is you sir, who do not get it. Use your own word for marriage as I’ve said a thousand times.
Leave marriage alone. Or perhaps you did not get the memo that a woman married her horse……………..
To be consistent with your absurdity, you should have no problem with her and her ‘lifestyle choice.’
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Colourstorm, are you married?
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Are you divorced, Colourstorm?
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Are you a magician jz? For it appears you are the master of smokescreens 😉
My observations stand and need no interpretation.
You are trying to bring into the mix voting, slavery, mixed marriages, as if they are relevant to what marriage is?
Please. Others may not see the sleight of hand……………..
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Colourstorm,
Are you married?
You seem to have a lot to say about marriage, so I think it’s only reasonable for you to tell me if you are married.
So, CS, are you married?
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Or are you divorced, Colourstorm?
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The Bible notes that Moses got in trouble with the Israelites because of his mixed marriage, he had to send the wife and kids away for a while.
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“I just can’t think that this Katy Faust has any credibility with discerning thinkers.”
Yes, actually, doing some more reading online, I think the vast majority of Australians are going to be annoyed that an American Christian is trying to bulldoze her opinions into their lives. She just might beautifully have the opposite effect she’s after. Maybe the press over there are having a bit of fun giving her coverage.
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That I could believe. ABC is anything but right-wing sympathetic, and they’re not shy to host atheist/Christian debates. This is from Q&A
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Well, good for them on cancelling that asshat’s appearance – his notoriety’s spread far and wide.
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Did they? Where did you hear that?
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Referring to Mark Driscoll Here
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“Knowing that His penis would need a home, God created a woman to be your wife. And when you marry her and look down you will notice that your wife is shaped differently than you and makes a very nice home,” he said.
WTF? LOL! These nutter’s never cease to amaze me 🙂
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That guy had a particularly bad case of the nasties. . . even the looks of him gives me the willies. .
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But not a willy you would want, I suspect. 🙂
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Recently Hillsong Church, the biggest Church in Australia, had proposed to bring out the disgraced preacher Mark Driscoll for their annual conference. But the public outcry was such that they withdrew the application.
Actually I see they have a bit of ‘gay’ issue of their own on the go: Here
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Carmen, I see the curse of VW’s ‘Reply’ button has struck again.
By the way I should have said withdraw the,invitation, not application, GRR!.
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Peter,
You might want to read the thread that Violet has included, which links to Mr. Merveilleux’s site – it will be interesting to see how the panel (on Q & A) deals with this cult leader (Katy Faust). Although it’s on later than I usually stay up, I plan to watch it. Try not to throw anything at the television. . 🙂
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Perhaps I will watch Q&A this Monday evening. I will see if I can avoid throwing something at the television set.
For those outside Australia, Q&A has become a controversial programme in Australia with the Prime Minister for a few months refusing to allow any of his senior ministers to appear on the programme because of his views that the editorial bias on the programme.
My own frustration with the programme tended to arise from the kid gloves treatment given to Islamic issues. Probably best I don’t so any more on this matter, having just heard a news report about the ISIS rape manual (they pray before and after the rape – making it a religious act, based on their understanding of the practices from the earliest days of Islam).
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Peter, I half expected the headlines this morning to read, “Katy Faust, Religious Bigot, Gets Crucified on Q and A” 🙂
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I thought it was more reasonable discussion than those I had seen in the past, in that differing views (regardless of whether or not you agree with them) were allowed to be heard. Interestingly the audience seemed less partisan than in the past. I am used to the audience all seeming to support one position rather than appreciating both sides of an issue. Perhaps the Q&A Producers have taken heed of the criticism of bias against them and taken their medicine.
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I’m a former psych nurse, and you can’t believe how many “ex-gays” ended up on our locked psych ward. These poor folks were so confused and damaged they didn’t know head from tails. They even used the phrase “recovered gay” a lot. I don’t know what they thought they were recovered from, but they sure as hell weren’t recovered from homosexuality, and they sure as hell weren’t recovered from horrendous religious abuse. It was tragic, and I believe many of these folks will face a lifetime of psychological damage.
Say again how religion isn’t harmful? 😉
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Wow, seriously? I suppose there’s a bit of a ‘gay conversion’ industry over there. What a shame.
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Technically I suppose you’d call it “gay deconversion,” but yes, at one point there were many church programs to “cure” the gays across our country. I think several of them have closed now, but they were quite active in the late 90s and early 2000s. Sadly we got the damaged minds when they were finished curing them…it wasn’t pretty.
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Have you seen this: http://variouspontifications.com/2015/08/14/grace-church-seattle-to-implement-a-genitalia-inspection-for-all-members/
HILARIOUS!
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I realise that is a parody post, but on a more serious note, a fundamentalist Christian friend of mine assured, with great sincerity, me that whenever a pope is elected all the cardinals have to check ‘his private parts’ to make sure he is really a man. Allegedly this procedure was introduced because of Pope Joan, the lady masquerading as a man who was elected Pope.
PopeJoan
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A touch from Q&A with Katy Faust for those who are interested:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-18/same-sex-marriage-debate-dominates-qanda/6704558
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Peter thanks for the clip. John shared a link that shows the full discussion, in case you haven’t seen it. It starts at just past the 11:00 minute marker.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s4273039.htm
I was disgusted with both the Bigot and the guy supporting her. If we are to go by their “reasoning” and stick with “tradition”, then husbands should continue to have the rule over their wives. Why? Well, according to these two “traditionalists”, it’s been a tradition for thousands of years.
I couldn’t help but laugh at the drama queen guy on the panel (on the far left), the same one supporting the Bigot, as he talked about how the poor Christians have been demonized for standing up for tradition. How ironic is that, considering that atheists are the most hated and distrusted group in America, no thanks to “tradition”.
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Interesting the two you disliked were the non Australians on the show, the drama queen guy, I think was an English visitor.
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