the god watching suffering question versus the yes-men for feminism
Every individual is a unique balance of attributes regardless of their gender. Some people are natural leaders and decision makers, some people prefer a more laid back approach to life, some people hate making decisions and some people love discussing things endlessly and making free-flowing group decisions – regardless of their gender.
Some Christians will tell you that men are better equipped to take the lead and make decisions. Because apparently their invisible deity had it written that way in their holy book, and this rule is backed up by what they think they observe in society.
In reality, it’s clear that men use their current position of dominance in society, their larger and stronger physical presence and their testosterone fueled arrogance, and unfortunately do (at this stage in the development of the human race) make a disproportionate number of decisions in society. But that’s not good enough for some Christians:
We as a society have moved away from the husband as the head of the home. In too many homes, the husband is either a yes-man for feminism or a patriarchal dictator. Neither of those represents the kind of marital partnership—with the husband as the head, loving his wife selflessly and the two of them entering into mutual submission even as she recognizes his responsibility as the head—which the Bible describes.
Let’s ponder this utopian vision for one second: “mutual submission even as she recognizes his responsibility as the head”. He’s the boss, he’s in charge, he’s the head … but he’s not a patriarchal dictator, because he loves selflessly and mutually submits (but is still the head). Anyone spotting a jitter on the nonsense-o-meter (NOM)?
Moving on from Becky‘s impossible vision for a happy marriage, we reach even more fertile NOM ground.
No surprise, then, that Christians haven’t learned to bow to the headship of Christ.
Instead we want to dictate to Him how things should be. God shouldn’t be wrathful. Everyone should go to heaven. Everybody who’s sick should be healed. In fact, why not do away with child abuse and sex trafficking and drug addiction and murder. And wars! Wars should have been dealt with a long time ago.
Let’s pause to consider what Becky is saying for just one second: imagine we believe in a perfect, wonderful, all-powerful fairy, called Fairy, living invisibly in the clouds watching our every move and able to do anything she pleased to help us. Would we be happy with her (or consider her perfect) if she sat watching child abuse and sex trafficking without intervening? Would we accept that she told us she is perfect, wonderful and all-powerful but all the suffering in the world is the fault of two people she created in a garden 6000 years ago? Or would we question if, given that we can’t see Fairy, the garden story makes no sense, and she’s doing NOTHING, that perhaps she might not be there?
The message here is clear. Men, if you would only bow to the headship of your wife in your marriage (while she protects you and somehow mutually submits from her position of Top Dog), you will understand that you need to bow to the headship of Fairy the fairy. And then, only then, will you understand why Fairy passively continues watching murder, torture, rape and child abuse on a daily basis, without intervening. Either that, or she doesn’t exist. Can’t quite make my mind up …
Am confused here.
You are head and submissive. How does this happen? Or is it like the case where the president is the most powerful man in the state but submits to the elected idjits in parliament?
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I think this only makes sense to people desperate enough to try and make sense of it, ie Christians. The open patriarchal tyrant was good enough for in previous centuries but since the advent of feminism they’ve had to revise the message to make it mildly acceptable. More shifting messages they’ll deny.
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even then, to make such things make sense, the idea of sense then has lost all meaning
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It is of course entirely possible Fairy the fairy likes to watch, that Fairy the fairy takes pleasure in the debasement.
Is Becky married, or is she living in some romance novel world?
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Might be living in a romance world, she does work as an editor …
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It would be interesting to know, you should ask her.
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“In Christ there is no Greek nor Jew, slave nor free, male nor female”. An equality verse to stand against 1 Timothy 2:12, “I do not permit a woman to teach”. So Becky should not be blogging anyway.
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You’re right! She should at least have a disclaimer asking men not to read it.
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Ya’ll should really stick to godless juvenile banter and leave the bible to 3rd grade Sunday school students who are far more qualified to handle it. In most areas, Rebecca’s’ command of the scriptures exceeds most of the apostate men polluting pulpits today.
Why do you arrogant insecure pagans care what she thinks or says?
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You weren’t addressing me, but I care because Christianity is beautiful and valuable, and because Becky drives people from Christ. Why do you care what is written here?
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“Why do you arrogant insecure pagans care what she thinks or says?” – Frankly, I see “arrogant insecure pagans” as a contradiction in terms, much like, oh, I don’t know, “Intelligent Christians.” But to answer your question, I would suspect the primary purpose is to open her world of delusion to the light of sanity and reason – I’m sure you’re at least vaguely familiar with those terms —
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“Rebecca’s’ command of the scriptures exceeds most of the apostate men polluting pulpits today.” – It’s one thing to have a “command of the scriptures,” and yet another entirely to know the history behind those scriptures, how they came to be, how much is based on historicity and how much on fable, as well as the agendas behind their writing, the various forgeries passed off as genuine, the agendas of the scribes and monks who altered many of the originals, and the further agendas behind their acceptance into the Bible. Becky appears to have no knowledge of any of these.
As for your “3rd grade Sunday school students,” I would suspect the validity of your statement would depend on how thoroughly they had been indoctrinated, how susceptible they were to Stockholm Syndrome, and on the degree of their parroting skills.
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“Why do you arrogant insecure pagans care what she thinks or says?”
Becky’s blog was one of the first I followed. I think she said something disturbing about gay people or hitting children. I feel quite friendly towards her, I can totally see she means well but she’s been led astray by an awful version of the religion she follows. And her posts are really funny sometimes. Like there. I think she’ll be much happier in herself when she finds a group of Christians who embrace a more modern interpretation of the Bible, and realises she can still believe in the same god but have a more honestly loving approach to everyone – women and children included! There’s no hope for people like you, but Becky’s got a good soul (as you folks would say).
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“only then, will you understand why Fairy passively continues watching murder, torture, rape and child abuse on a daily basis, without intervening. Either that, or she doesn’t exist”
I love this argument. Truly, it is one of my absolute favorites, because it absolutely screams to the reality of “sin” in the world, of evil, of real pain and transgression being inflicted in a manner that offends our deepest core, yet all of this is the very sort of thing that elsewhere you either claim isn’t real, or isn’t very much of a problem… (I believe you made some point about “not many of us going around committing rape, murder, etc…)
In the end you are actually making one of the strongest arguments for the Truth of the Bible that one can make…..
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I don’t know how you can speak of the “Truth of the Bible,” when the very first four words are complete fabrications, written by anonymous Aaronid priests, living in captivity in Babylon, who knew nothing of science, cosmology, physics, or any actual idea of how the universe began.
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I can speak of it, because they are not fabrications, not written by anonymous Aaronid priests living in captivity in Babylon, and neither written by, nor believed in, by people ” knew nothing of science, cosmology, physics, or any actual idea of how the universe began.”
Pretty simple really.
By the way, now that you mention it… If Evolutionary “Science” is so convinced it understands how the universe began, why are quantum physicists suddenly suggesting that there was no “Big Bang”…??
That’s more than a slight modification of one’s “actual idea of how the universe began”, but yet this isn’t seen as any sort of embarrassment?
“The Big Bang singularity is the most serious problem of general relativity because the laws of physics appear to break down there.” – Ahmed Farag Ali, Benha University
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You should just keep to reading your bible, that is safe ground for you. Science seems not to be your forte.
Evolutionary science doesn’t deal with the origins of the universe, that is cosmology. Evolution is change over time- and the science deals with the changes in organisms over time as a result of environmental pressures/ natural selection.
And further the new theory questions the issue of a singularity not the inflation.
You are welcome and am glad I could help. That will be two beers, I will pay
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Don’t swig those beers just yet friend…. 🙂
Unfortunately, your concept of neat and tidy “scientific compartmentalization” is not even accurate. There are, in fact, six types of evolution:
1. Cosmic Evolution: The origin of time, space and matter.
2. Chemical Evolution: The origin of higher elements from hydrogen.
3. Stellar and Planetary Evolution: The origin of stars and planets.
4. Organic Evolution: The origin of Life.
5. Macro-Evolution: The changing from one kind of species to another kind of species.
6. Micro-Evolution: The variation within kinds of species.
Now, guess which type is the ONLY one to have ever actually been witnessed by human beings…? (and if science is really YOUR “forte”, you will remember that science involves being able to demonstrably repeat something…?)
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Science ain’t my forte. How does listing the types of evolution change the definition of evolution I offered?
My teacher told me to never do guesswork just shortly before I dropped out of school
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You smugly declared me to be ignorant of science because I was allegedly confusing evolution with cosmology. The definition you were offering essentially limits evolution to only biological evolution, which as the list shows, is only one area in which the theory of evolution is applied. This should be pretty self-evident, I would think. Clearly it must be realized that according to broader Evolutionary theory, there were billions of years of stars, galaxies, planets, etc., forming long before life suddenly configured itself out of the building blocks of minerals/chemicals/gases and such. (right?)
This is a big reason as to why I believe the theory of Evolution is incredibly Unscientific, right on it’s face. It argues for far more than just slight mutations occurring within living organisms, it basically asserts that element in the periodic table was formed by smaller, simpler elements eventually reorganizing themselves on a quantum level, creating more and more elements, and then the elements eventually globbed into all sorts of molecules, and the molecules, started globbing into proteins, and then all these pieces suddenly and cooperatively fell together into the first living cell, complete with a genetic code more complex than the one running the computer I’m typing on….
And yet, I’M the one being accused of believing in “magic”…. 😉
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Haha, you find my response smug.
In common usage, when dimwits use evolution they refer to biological evolution and not those other many definitions you gave.
I don’t know if they say life suddenly emerged. I haven’t seen that.
You think evolution is unscientific because you can’t fathom slight mutations resulting in larger changes after a long period of time? Are you saying a theory is false because you are unimaginative or because there is no evidence to support it? Which is it?
I didn’t know you believed in magic until you mentioned it.
Do you have a broomstick for transport?
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The “magic” reference was admittedly towards the other commenters here in general, since they seem to love throwing that term at anyone believing in anything beyond scientific materialism.
I never said I can’t fathom ” slight mutations resulting in larger changes after a long period of time”. Go back and read my earlier comment with the list again. I said only ONE of these has actually been observed. It’s true, there IS a form of biological evolution that is real, and observable and quite “scientific”. Unfortunately, all it adds up to is the development of variations within a given species. So, dogs can interbreed with dogs, and over time we can see new variations of dogs. But they are still dogs. Animals can migrate and move around the planet to different environments, and over time physically adapt in ways that are passed on to their offspring, etc. BUT, in all these types of scenarios, we’re still only dealing with biological variations with stay within the genetic parameters for adaptation that were present from the outset. If anything, this ability to adapt and change within species only serves as evidence of a superior, ingenious, original design, not some massive process of protozoaic life turning into tiny animals, evolving into larger animals, evolving into fish, then birds, mammals, etc. This is completely counter to what basic biology has taught us, and is not scientifically provable whatsoever.
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I haven’t the time nor the inclination to educate you on the principles of evolution – go read Richard Dawkins’ The Ancestor’s tale, then come back and we’ll chat.
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(Talk about works of fiction and fairy tales….)
All the time in the world would not be sufficient for you to demonstrate such ideas ever having a “rendezvous” with the Truth of how the biological world is actually observed to function….
It is a mythology most stretched.
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What is scientific materialism. I haven’t heard the term before.
Maybe I haven’t read a lot of evolution but am sure in the much have read, they haven’t said a dog becomes a cow or cat if you get the drift but that there have been gradual changes over time from a common ancestor.
How does ability for mutation point to a superior original design? How would this be if some of the mutations are retrogressive or dangerous to the organism? Does this fact point to an original inferior design?
What has basic biology taught you since we were not in the same class and under different curriculum you could share your knowledge
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I never said that – you’re deliberately misquoting me so you can play the tired, old “god of the gaps” game. I said that the anonymous, superstitious, scientifically-ignorant Aaronid priests, who wrote Gen 1 while in captivity in Babylon in the 500’s BCE, had no idea of how the universe came to be. Scientists today are not certain either, but they definitely have an idea, several of them, that’s the way science works: 1) hypothesize, 2) test, 3) accept for peer review or reject, repeat. Whereas among the religious, “god did it,” so no reason to bother looking further.
And while they search through possibilities, scientists discard as they go, and one of the first they found to fit that category was that it was not created by a magic sky fairy.
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I didn’t misquote you. In fact I more or less cut and pasted your own words. If you think I was twisting your comment, I apologize. Wasn’t my intention. Let’s look at another quote:
” Scientists today are not certain either, but they definitely have an idea, several of them, that’s the way science works”
Yes, and all of those “ideas” fall under the preconceived assumption that there is nothing in the Universe beyond the physical matter itself. That’s actually the opposite of “scientific”, (because you’re not starting without any assumptions), it’s scientism…
You keep using the term “magic”, as if in the end, a spiritual dimension(s) to the universe would necessarily be any less “real” or “mechanical” than the lower dimensions.
If I went back in time to even a hundred years ago, and was trying to explain to people about things such as WiFi technology, I would almost certainly sound like I was describing some kind of “magical” thing, even though it’s not “magic”, it’s simply involving elements of the natural realm that beyond the people’s current understanding of the natural realm. In other words, it is “super” to their “natural”.
So no, in scientism, rather than science, the “fairy god” was not rejected after being actually considered, tested, and discredited, it was rejected as an impossibility from the outset. Massive difference there.
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Science follows evidence – when evidence is found that an invisible supernatural entity exists, I’ve no doubt that science will be all over that. Until then, however, we’ll just have to muddle on with theories for which there is actual evidence.
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“I can speak of it, because they are not fabrications, not written by anonymous Aaronid priests living in captivity in Babylon” – I’m not surprised you would say that, in general, Christians know far less about the Bible and how it came to be, than those who are standing far enough off to see the forest, and not just the trees. I have sources that confirm what I say, respected, peer-reviewed, biblical scholars whom I have every reason to believe you would not accept, so I won’t waste my time providing you with those. Colorstorm redacts them.
However, you might be more likely to accept The New American Bible as a credible source.
From the section entitled, “THE PENTATEUCH”: “It is true that we do not conceive of him [Moses] as the author in the modern sense.”
On page xxi, “HOW THE BIBLE CAME ABOUT,” we find, “Though Moses is not the author of the Pentateuch, the first five books of the Bible…, he is the inspiration behind it.”
It goes on to mention the Graf-Wellhausen Documentary Hypothesis, and fully accepts and explains the four groups who, combined, wrote that which is now know as the Torah/Septuagint/Pentateuch, one of which was known as the Priestly source, and is known to have written Gen 1.
You, of course, are free to believe any fairy tale you like, but I wouldn’t do that without investigating further – but that’s just me —
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“THE PENTATEUCH”: “It is true that we do not conceive of him [Moses] as the author in the modern sense.”
Do you know why this is…? Contrary to whatever your “sources” may have told you, it is NOT because the entire Creation story, patriarchial lineage, Mosaic Law, etc. was simply dreamed up a piece of “historical fiction” (as your buddy Arkenaten would say) during the Babylonian captivity, it is because A) Moses was not the “author” in the sense that the Creation account existed LONG before he came around, much of being preserved through oral tradition, and then in various writings, and so of course, Moses was not “authoring” those portions, as he was merely acting as a scribe, or, more accurately, the people writing things down for him were acting as scribes, etc., and B) the Law itself did not originate from the mind/imagination of Moses either, but through direct revelation from God. of course, you do not believe this, because you don’t believe in the possibility of there existing any Being higher than yourself, an a priori assumption you bring to the matter, as do so many of the modern day “peer-reviewed Biblical scholars” I’m sure you’re referring to.
The Priests didn’t write Genesis 1, sorry Mr. Graf-Wellhausen….
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“…it is NOT because the entire Creation story, patriarchial lineage, Mosaic Law, etc. was simply dreamed up a piece of “historical fiction” (as your buddy Arkenaten would say) during the Babylonian captivity” – I never said it was. I said Gen 1 was written by a group of Aaronid priests in captivity in Babylon in the 500’s BCE.
The patriarchial lineage, for which no archaeological evidence has ever been found, was written independently from oral legends by both the Yahwist Source, writing in Jerusalem, in the Southern Kingdom of Judea, around 950 BCE (300 years after Moses – for whom there is also no archeological evidence – was alleged to have lived), and by the Elohist Source, a group of Levite priests writing in the Northern Kingdom of Israel, around 850 BCE. The patriarchial lineage doesn’t even qualify as historical fiction – and I don’t believe my buddy Ark said that, I did.
Deuteronomy, was written by the Deuteronomist Source in the kingdom of Josiah, around 750 BCE, possibly by Josiah himself.
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You can just list them, Colostrom is not the host in this case, he will not be able to delete or have EDITOR’S note anywhere in the threads
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Oh I’m not concerned with Colorstorm here – in fact, I noticed he disappeared right after I arrived.
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“it absolutely screams to the reality of “sin” in the world, of evil, of real pain and transgression being inflicted in a manner that offends our deepest core, yet all of this is the very sort of thing that elsewhere you either claim isn’t real, or isn’t very much of a problem”
Where did I say it wasn’t real or wasn’t a problem? It’s still a fact that most of us don’t murder, rape or steal. That doesn’t mean crime not real or a problem when people do. Your argument style is nonsense, and I don’t think you’re doing it on purpose, you just genuinely have no way of viewing the facts without your Christian tinted glasses.
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Well, then why do you not seem able to actually speak to any of the logical points I lay out, instead of just waving it away as “nonsense”, and accusing me of Christian bias, etc…?
I don’t think I’m making any effort to hide the fact that I am indeed arguing in favor of the Truth of the Bible, but if that in itself is enough for you (or anyone else) to just use that in itself as some sort of grounds for dismissing what I’m saying from the outset, then well, you’re really just avoiding the real, valid points I have taken extreme effort to put forth.
This issue here, (the question of how a good, loving God could sit back and allow so much pain and suffering and evil in the world) very much connects right back to the long conversation we’ve been having over the matter of objective morality vs. subjective. In fact, they’re really two subdivisions of a larger, cohesive topic. Do you really not think so? Do you really think I’m just speaking “nonsense”, or is it just easier to just call it that and not have to address the internal problematic issues raised by a thorough examination of your own belief system?
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Let me ask, if god says steal from the Egyptians on your way out and then later says don’t steal, is this objective or subjective morality? Help me understand.
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Did they steal from the Egyptians, or did God tell them to ask the Egyptians for their gold and silver, which the Egyptians were all too happy to oblige, because they wanted to see the Israelites leave before God destroyed them…?
33The Egyptians urged the people, to send them out of the land in haste, for they said, “We will all be dead.” 34So the people took their dough before it was leavened, with their kneading bowls bound up in the clothes on their shoulders.
35Now the sons of Israel had done according to the word of Moses, for they had requested from the Egyptians articles of silver and articles of gold, and clothing; 36and the LORD had given the people favor in the sight of the Egyptians, so that they let them have their request. Thus they plundered the Egyptians.
(Exodus 12:33-36)
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So there are times you plunder but and your neighbour sits by watching idly
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Does that REALLY make any sense? Ex 5:1 tells us that Moses only asked Pharaoh to let the Jews go out into the wilderness to make a feast to their god – does it make any sense that they would need all of their herds, and to “borrow” objects of gold and silver to make a feast and come right back?
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I do not permit a woman to teach? Back off Clare Flourish. You are putting on a pedestal what is meant to be a tool, you tool. I’ve got your permit, come and get it. And you better listen to women, and get off your high horse. With all the love, Cheers!
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Sigh. I have my permit, thank you. Did you notice I quoted Galatians as well? “Tool” is a reductive way of seeing the Bible. And “Tool” is a foolish judgment to make, of someone you hardly know. With “High horse”, you are merely projecting.
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Yes, dear Clare, I tend to project. But we are all God’s tools, are we not? His creatures? And what is wrong with reductive? By offering your kind words, are you not teaching, woman!? Oh where did you get your permit?
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“But we are all God’s tools, are we not? His creatures?” – No.
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No. How about Gravity? Or Mortality? My friend the grim reaper will be right along to remind you. Nice try at taking my reply to Clare out of context, weak sauce. Keep wearing labels and see how that works.
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John, Arch is an atheist, liable to make comments like that. There are a few of them here. Some of us are God’s slaves rather than tools; and I got my permit in answer to prayer.
Oh come again to my blog. I have a fiendish logic puzzle for you.
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“Arch is an atheist, liable to make comments like that.” – More than likely, actually.
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Clare honey, you are a fiendish logic puzzle. I know, Arch is an atheist and I’m a blue unicorn. And we’re all terminal patients who like to wear name tags. Yay for us! And I will be happy to read your blog, thanks.
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I meant I had a fiendish logic puzzle for you- I know we are dancing with metaphor here, but that bit was literal. Communication is so difficult!
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And if you think your brand of voodoo is going to keep you from becoming wormfood, good luck with that —
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Vermiculture is my future career? Can I get employee of the month?
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Hors d’oeuvre of the month, possibly —
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Yeah, it’s great to be quadriplegic like Joni in Becky’s post. Thank you lord for making me paralysed. I love every day of it. WhT planet are these people on.
I don’t think Becky has correctly read her BDSM manual. It’s not s/s. It’s D/s.
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Eh? Should I know what that means without googling it? I’m so out of touch …
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Quadriplegic or BDSM?
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Very funny. The s/s, D/s. I tried googling and was amazed at the array of sites there are out there that I don’t want to click on …
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I think it’s quite relevant given the christian obsession with submission …
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No, I mean I have no idea what those mean!
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Are you trying to turn this into fifty shades of Violet?
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Okay, found it. D/s is dominance/submission, so you were making a submission/submission joke! Get it now. Isn’t it nice when jokes go over people’s heads then get explained to you?
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Sorry violet, I wasn’t being smart. I was the woman who thought 50 shades was some new trendy contemp lit book. D/s is Dominance/submission. Cap D. Cap S for Sir, cap M for Master, also, cap D for Domme for the women in there. I digress, although I do find it interesting that Christians are obsessed with submission. The hidden D/s methinks.
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Maybe that explains why some women are happy to accept it.
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Yep, guess it could be worse!
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@ to whosoever will:
You reference Beck’ys scripture of Christ and Headship, and while believing in neither, somehow you are qualified to mock her as well as the scriptures? Not too smart.
Here is an observation you may find helpful, but you will not:
Certain folks demand answers from scripture, Sola scriptura! they shout, while at the same time deny the authority from scripture which gives the answers their only merit. Look at the supreme lack of logic being engaged, where the precursor to the question, guarantees ANY answer as completely unacceptable. *
Would it be wrong of me to laugh at such a statement? Hoop jumping, fact twisting, and logic avoiding are all used to justify further unbelief, while at the same time charging the believer with malfeasance. Indeed, it is the believers fault the truth is vague! Yea, there’s a chuckle in there somewhere. *
* from the post higher education
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Oh look! It ventured out from his Mama’s basement and immediately begins blathering nonsense!
“Certain folks demand answers from scripture” – No they don’t – they demand answers from the believer as to how they could possibly accept such idiocy as fact – they most certainly QUESTION the scriptures, but demand answers from believers.
Neil Carter, in his blog, “Godless in Dixie,” has an interesting blogpost entitled, “Ten Things Christians Accidentally Tell Me About Themselves, has noticed a quality, in his discussions with Christians, that I see you exhibiting here, Colorstorm, in the above paragraph – describing exactly how Christians relate to atheist information, yet you choose to “reverse the charges,” just as Neil Carter predicted you would:
And BTW, CS – try deleting or censoring THIS comment, as you have many of my others.
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Arch that link is quite informative. Looks like things I hear once in a while
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You should subscribe to Neil’s blog, Mak, he has some good things to say.
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Yea well, until Mr Carter can make a fingernail from nothing, I’ll stick with God’s word.
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Well, until there’s evidence that your god even exists, I’ll stick with Mr. Carter. Now back in the basement with you —
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Colorstrom, you higher education post that you are advertising here I read and told you it was crap. I wrote a response to it and all you saw was that some people spelt your name wrong.
Unless it is a case of narcissism or the hidden belief that it was a brilliant post, I can’t begin to fathom why you would even quote yourself.
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As soon as you said the word, “narcissism,” Mak – you hit the nail right on the head! It drives him, he obsesses over it, he needs it to put one foot in front of another, because without the validation of others, he knows he is nothing.
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I think it would be a pain to have two of him in a single room. You would ask to be killed after just a few minutes
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You are a careless reader there fella. The quote had to do with THIS post, and it was in context. I suggest any strangers actually read your post, my comment. and the endless rants of stupidity by you and your brethren.
Anybody with an ounce of unbiased honesty will agree.
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I agree, any unbiased honest person will be amused at what a coxcomb you are
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What would you know about unbiased honesty?
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“You reference Beck’ys scripture of Christ and Headship, and while believing in neither, somehow you are qualified to mock her as well as the scriptures?”
Yes, why not? She’s calling for women to be in an inferior position to men. She’s also suggesting that all the pain and horror in the world is an invisible deity’s plan – this is harmful teaching.
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Sorry you did not understand the post vw, but I can assure you, God has no defect, His word is sure, and He is not on trial.
As to inferior? aw nevermind.
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“God has no defect, His word is sure, and He is not on trial.” – He is indeed all of those things, Colorstorm – the only thing he isn’t, is real.
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Hey Colorstorm, have you banned me from commenting on your blog?
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I have never banned anybody
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You sure? I tried to leave a comment the other day and nothing happened.
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probably moderation john? plus working odd hours, etc.
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No, it doesn’t say Moderation, and I can’t see the comment, which i can when it is waiting in moderation. I hit Send and the screen just goes to the top. No sign whatsoever that the comment was made.
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Your last one was in moderation and it went to insanitybytes, I have been having issues with Phishing, spam, red screens, got thrown off word press myself for no reason so who knows.
Maybe there was a word in your post that was ‘grabbed,’ ie ‘colostomy,’ which btw, if that’s how it starts, its all downhill from there.
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“I tried to leave a comment the other day and nothing happened” – What a coincidence, Colorstorm tried to think the other day with the same result.
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Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
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Let’s see – Ephesians was allegedly written by Paul, right? And Paul was a man, right? I think you’ve just confirmed Vi’s point – thanks for your help.
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LOL !
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The Bible wasn’t written for non believers, so why do you care what it says ?
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Because that nonsense is being taught to children, and carried by missionaries, like a virus, to infect the unsuspecting.
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What I am trying to tell you is, those people are not like d by the Holy Spirit, therefore they are not Christian, a Christian will not do any of those things, a Christian is peaceful, a person led by the Holy Spirit will never preach to anyone, the people who you think are Christian that preach to everyone, are not LD by the Spirit, therefore they are not Christian
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That’s malarky (I would use another phrase, but this is be kind to Christians week) – your own book tells you to go forth and tell everyone the “good news”! Don’t make me dig out chapter and verse, you know which ones I mean.
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Ah, the great commission was fulfilled by the time that Colossians was written, therefore what you are saying to me is wrong. Col 1:23 be not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you have heard & which was preached to every creature under heaven.
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Those who still believe in the great commission don’t know the truth, the New Testament isn’t written about our time period. The second coming of Christ happened during the generation of the disciples, Matt 10:23 & Matt 24:34 confirm that truth, but something tells me that you don’t care about the truth.
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“The second coming of Christ happened during the generation of the disciples, Matt 10:23 & Matt 24:34 confirm that truth, but something tells me that you don’t care about the truth.” – Nay, nay, not so! I am VERY interested in the truth, when it can be found. For example, I’d be curious to know – and perhaps you can enlighten me on this – what would an anonymous author, writing near 80 AD, know about anything that happened in 33 AD, nearly 50 years earlier? Whoever that anonymous author was, who was later guessed to be Matthew, he copied 90% of his gospel directly from the first anonymous author to write a gospel, the one later dubbed “Mark” by people who never knew or even met him. And you’re expecting to find TRUTH in such a book? It would be funny if it weren’t so tragic that grown people actually believe it..
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LOL! Matthew was not written before the destruction of Jerusalem, Matthew was definitely written before AD 70
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“Matthew” (I put that in quotation marks, because whoever wrote “Matthew,” it wasn’t Matthew) wrote his gospel about five years after “Mark” (same quotes, same reason) wrote his, which was after the destruction of the temple in 72 AD.
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“Luke: wrote his about ten years after “Matthew,” roughly 85 AD, and “John,” near the end of, or just after, the century.
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(preterism is but one interpretation of these verses archy, as I’m sure you already know…)
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I am not “preterism” I don’t follow what man says, the New Testament makes it very clear that everything was finished by AD 70
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(that’s preterism bro, whether you like that term or not, in the end, you’re saying that Jesus already came back, etc, which no, is not supported by a vast amount of scripture in the N.T…)
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LOL! I am not your bro, and Matt 10:23, & Matt 24:34 certainly make it very clear that Christ returned during the generation of the disciples, if you deny that truth, then that’s cool, I stay way from people like you
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Well I guessed you missed the Resurrection too then, sucks for you…
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LOL! It’s all spiritual, I was resurrected as soon as God gave me the faith to believe in His Son, I was born from above 20 years ago, I was spiritually raised from the dead, then, HalleluYah !
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“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.” (so I suppose that happened during the generation of the disciples as well? Funny that they forgot to mention it….)
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Read Matt 24:34 it says that it did
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Actually Matt 24:34 says that it would happen during the generation of the disciples, they didn’t forget to mention that at all, people just hate that truth, soi they don’t speak it
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“…people just hate that truth, soi they don’t speak it” – That’s certainly true of theists who don’t want to admit that their god isn’t real.
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Here is the truth about Matt 24. https://bornfromabove7.wordpress.com/2014/11/08/matt-24-isnt-about-the-end-of-the-planet-2/
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Here is the truth about Matt 24:29-30. https://bornfromabove7.wordpress.com/2014/11/08/matt-2429-30-isnt-about-the-end-of-the-planet-2/
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I strongly suspect you stay away from a great number of people – that’s good, stay isolated, stay secure from any ideas other than your own – great plan!
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God protects me from those who speak false, HalleluYah !
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Arch, please read Matt 24:34 that verse makes it very clear that Christ returned during the generation of the disciples, everything in the New Testament has already happened
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So you’re saying that this, from Matthew 24:29-31, has already happened:
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Matt 10:23 “But whenever they persecute you in one city, flee to the next; for truly I say to you, you will not finish {going through} the cities of Israel until the Son of Man comes.
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So you’re saying that Yeshua has already returned, on a cloud, as predicted, and his thousand-year reign came and went without notice, over a thousand years ago? I was expecting a little more pomp and circumstance – maybe some trumpets or something —
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I’m not saying that, the New Testament says that, therefore I believe, also it’s not Christ who reigns a thousand years, it is those who are spoken about in Revelation 20:6 who reign with Christ a thousand years, meaning a complete reign with Christ, not a literal 1,000 years
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And yet my earlier questions go unanswered —
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Alll you want to do is argue, I see right through you, therefore I will not answer questions that have nothing to do with me, if you have a question about what I believe I will answer, but I will not answer a question that has to do with someone else’s marriage
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But you stated what you did, as though you believed it – are you now saying you don’t?
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I definitely believe in regards to me, but as far as someone else I cannot answer for them, when I get married, my wife will want me to lead her, and protect her, because I will have her best interest in mind
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“…when I get married, my wife will want me to lead her, and protect her” – In other words, you’re saying you wouldn’t marry anyone whose self-esteem was sufficiently strong that she didn’t want to be led and protected. So basically, you’re clearly saying that you’re looking for a woman with low self-esteem.
I couldn’t live with a woman who couldn’t stand on her own two feet.
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No, I am not saying that, you are saying that, a woman who is led by the Holy Spirit will want a man to lead her
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What I’m hearing, is that you don’t feel important unless you have someone to feel more important THAN —
Might I suggest you get a puppy?
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LOL! What you are hearing is wrong, I don’t care about feeling important, I care about the truth, I don’t compare myself to anyone
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And yet you’re still expecting a woman who will let you “lead” her and “protect” her – I’m sensing major denial.
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LOL! Why do you care what I believe? I’m not the one who is in denial 🙂
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“Alll you want to do is argue” – It has been said, if you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
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I do my best not to argue, it has nothing to do with anything else, over the years I have learned that it’s best not to argue, I speak the truth & if people see it, that’s great, and if they don’t see it, that’s great too
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You speak your version of “the truth” – others have versions they feel are far more valid than yours.
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LOL! That’s fine, what I teach sn’t for everyone 🙂
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I have spoken the truth to you about the New Testament, the great commission was finished by the time that Colossians was written, Christ returned when Jerusalem was destroyed in AD 70, then after Jerusalem was destroyed, New Jerusalem was created, New Jerusalem is spiritual, all who believe that Yeshua is the Messiah that no longer practice sin are New Jerusalem, everything in the New Testament was finished by AD 70, the destruction of the temple was the end of the age of the law, it’s all finished
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Great. Then we can put the whole bad dream behind us – good to know.
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Arch, there is a verse in Revelation that talks about Jerusalem before she was destroyed by Titus & the Roman Empire in AD 70, that verse is Revelation 11:2, Revelation 11:2 proves the truth that Revelation was written before AD 70.
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“Revelation 11:2 proves the truth that Revelation was written before AD 70”
The New American Bible says, “The date of the book in its present form is probably near the end of the reign of Domitian (AD 81-96)….” To me, all 11:2 says is that it was written AFTER 72 AD.
Want to tell me how this happened, yet went unreported:
“Behold, he is coming amid the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him….” (1:7)
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The teaching that says Revelation was written after AD 70 is false. Here is my teaching about Revelation 11:2 that will prove Revelation was written before Jerusalem was destroyed in AD 70.
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Arch, here is my teaching about Revelation 11:2 that will prove that Revelation was written before Jerusalem was destroyed in AD 70. https://bornfromabove7.wordpress.com/2015/02/19/rev-112-proves-revelation-was-written-before-70-ad/
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Rev 11:2 says nothing that couldn’t have been said AFTER 70 AD. Yes, in your blogpost you say that Rev 4:1 makes it clear that 11:2 is a prophecy, but there is nothing stopping the anonymous author from writing it after the fact and claiming prescience.
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Not true, Revelation 11:2 talks about Jerusalem being destroyed before it happen, also Revelation 1:1 makes it very clear that everything in Revelation was to happen quickly, Revelation was definitely written before Jerusalem was destroyed in AD 70
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As I said previously, The New American Bible says 80-85, so let’s see your source and we’ll compare credentials.
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LOL! That Bible along with majority of people that say Revelation was written after AD 70, are wrong
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Still waiting on your source —
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LOL! If you can’t see the truth, there’s nothing I can do, it’s very clear that the New Testament was written before Jerusalem was destroyed
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Matt 24:34 “Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.
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In a Christian marriage both the husband and the wife are supposed to die to self, there is no dominance, the wife submits to her husband as the leader, and the husband leads his wife selflessly, the husband never forces his wife to do anything, he leads his wife to protect her, not to dominate her, a Christian is someone who is led by the Holy Spirit, a person led by the Holy Spirit is humble, therefore a person led by the Holy Spirit will never force anything on anyone
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“the husband never forces his wife to do anything, he leads his wife to protect her” – Just out of curiosity, since you seem to have it all figured out, what if he wants to lead her somewhere that she doesn’t want to go?
(And BTW, I don’t know if you get your definitions from a discount definition store, but the very word, “leader” implies dominance.)
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Oh, and while we’re on the subject – what makes him think she needs his protection? Or that he’s capable of providing it? Does he really feel THAT superior to her?
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Arch, this
is quite funny. Do they offer 25% discounts on definition or is 50% on all purchases?
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I don’t know, like Bible writers, I just make that stuff up as I go along —
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Making stuff up as one goes along I think attracts more believers than reality
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LOL! Why do you concern yourself with things that aren’t your business ?
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Hey – you commented on a public forum – what you say is everyone’s business. I didn’t notice you answering my questions —
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LOL! All you want to do is cause trouble, I see right through you
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“All you want to do is cause trouble” – TRANSLATION: “All you want to do is not agree with me!”
Yet you still can’t seem to answer my questions —
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LOL! Your translation is wrong, I don’t answer questions that don’t concern me, you on the other hand, enjoy being in other peoples business
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Questions that don’t concern you? When you make a statement and someone questions you about that statement, how do conclude that the question doesn’t concern you?
You said: “the husband never forces his wife to do anything, he leads his wife to protect her”
I asked: “Just out of curiosity, since you seem to have it all figured out, what if he wants to lead her somewhere that she doesn’t want to go?” – You didn’t answer.
And I would add to that, What if she doesn’t want his protection? What audacity gives him the idea that he’s more capable of “protecting,” than she is? What if she feels they should face things together, side by side, no one “protecting” the other?
If I were to say, “Green is red” – would I have any reason to believe that questions about the validity of my statement don’t “concern” me?
If you expect to be taken seriously, here or anywhere, you have to be prepared to defend your statements – however obviously true they may seem to you, they may well not seem so to others, just as most others are not likely to accept without question that green is in fact, red.
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This bornfromabove bloke reminds of Brandon without a Beard.
If things have come to pass already, how come such a dipshit like him is still here and not wearing a pinafore, dusting the rooms in his god’s mansion?
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From what I’ve read on the subject of preterism, he and his ilk are just awaiting the Rapture – frankly, it can’t come too soon, if that’s the only way to get them out of here.
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I thought preterism was simply a spelling variant of praterism – the state of being a complete and utter prat
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LOL! Love the insults, what you don’t understand is, the kingdom of God is not a physical kingdom, it is a spiritual kingdom, after the temple was destroyed in AD 70, the age of the law ceased, and New Jerusalem was created, New Jerusalem doesn’t have a physical temple, New Jerusalem is spiritual, all who believe that God’s Son is the Messiah that no longer practice sin are New Jerusalem, Christ is reigning in all who are born from above (born of the Spirit), it’s all spiritual, not physical, those who are born from above enter New Jerusalem, and those who are not born from above don’t enter New Jerusalem, everything in the New Testament was fulfilled after Jerusalem was destroyed in AD 70
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And now a history lesson.Wow! So cool.
What was your problem, bornabove; booze, porn, drugs. wearing your sister’s clothes at weekends? or just general all round naughtyness? You rotten little sinner, you! sinfulness?
Nice guitar by the way. Les Paul of Tarsus?
Which year?
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LOL! Before I was born from above, 20 years ago, I practiced sin, after I was born from above, I stopped practicing sin, meaning I don’t live in sin, the Les Paul is a 1971, I sold it a few years so I could pay my rent 🙂
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Sold it. A 1971 Les Paul of Tarsus!
Oh fark. Sorry. I would have bought it.
Damn, why don’t I know more axe-wielding sinners?
So if you were only practicing Sin, does this mean you weren’t any good at it?
And what ”sin” were you practicing that you had to give it up because you were obviously so useless?
I hope it was something original like hijacking planes or impersonating George Bush and not something so frakking passe like ”internet porn and swearing at my sister”
(Amazing how many reborns site pornography and drugs)
Wrong sort of drugs I imagine …
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Hey, if you don’t need me anymore, I’m going back to watching my porn – in fact, I think I found one STARRING your sister –!
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To practice sin, means to disobey God, since I wasn’t born from above before I was 23, I was living for myself up until I was born from above, selfish living is practicing sin, now that I am born from above, I no longer live for me, I live for God, therefore I don’t practice sin 🙂
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Fine, I get that. So in what way were you disobeying ‘God’?
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Mark says: “To practice sin, means to disobey God, since I wasn’t born from above before I was 23, I was living for myself up until I was born from above, selfish living is practicing sin, now that I am born from above, I no longer live for me, I live for God, therefore I don’t practice sin 🙂 “
Define “practicing sin” please. Do you sin? When’s the last time you did?
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I was living according to the flesh, meaning, I was living for myself, my desires were all about me, and not about God, once I was born from above, my whole perspective changed, I no longer wanted to live for me, I wanted to live for God, before I was born from above, I was filled with hate, after I was born from above, I was filled with love, before I was born from above, I hated life, after I was born from above, I felt like I had come home, I had found the answer to life, for the first time in my life I had peace, before I was born from above, I did not have peace, before I was born from above, I was a very angry person, after I was born from above, the anger went away, and I felt love for everyone around me, God had changed my life instantly, it was amazing, & still is amazing ! 🙂
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And why were you full of anger and hate?
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I was full of anger & hate because I was led by the flesh, the flesh is the spirit of the natural man, after I was born from above, the Holy Spirit that dwells in me restrained me from the flesh and I was no longer led by the flesh, because I was no longer led by the flesh, the anger & hate went away. The Holy Spirit changed my heart, & filled me with love & kindness for everyone around me, I had never felt love for people like that until I was born from above, for the first time in my life I felt kindness for all who were around me, God truly had changed my heart, I couldn’t believe, it was an absolute miracle that God had made happen,
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I am confused. I know plenty of people who are ”led by the flesh” – my children included, – we all have ti ear and drink -and they are not filled with hate or anger, and I have no hate for anything, except maybe Manchester United on a bad day.
So please, you are going to have to be a bit clearer on exactly what you mean by ”led by the flesh.”
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When I say, “led by the flesh”, I mean living life for yourself and not for God, if I live to please the flesh, then I am not led by the Holy Spirit, disobeying God is being led by the flesh, if I commit adultery, I am led by the flesh, if I say I believe Yeshua is the Messiah, but don’t stop practicing sin, I am led by the flesh, if I die to self, I am led by the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit puts to death the deeds of the flesh, if you believe Yeshua is the Messiah, & stop practicing sin, you are born from above 🙂
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Ah … so you didn’t have any of the regular addictions and you were/are just plain fuck- nuts?
I get it.
You still shouldn’t have sold your Les Paul ( of Tarsus), that was just stupid.
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I was never addicted to anything, the guitar had to be sold, & so I sold it, no big deal
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I just had a thought; are you implying you were a sociopath?
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No, I was definitely not a sociopath, I didn’t like the way I was, I wanted to change, but I couldn’t, the flesh was making me be who I was, I tried to change, but I Couldn’t control the anger that came from inside me, that anger left as soon as I was born from above
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Apparently you never chose to try therapy – and you still haven’t mentionedwhat in particular you were angry about. In Brandon’s (naivethinker) case, it was porn addiction. He seemed to view that was a bad thing —
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I didn’t need therapy, I needed God to change my heart, & God did change my heart, the instant I was born from above, halleluYah !
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You couldn’t change?
I was a smoker since the Crimean War; 20 cigarettes plus a day and I gave up. Stopped one day . On the spot.
Took a while for me to stop chewing the dog’s back leg and running round the garden backwards, but I quit – thank the gods.
Not once ever, did I consider sending out an appeal to the ether for your meglomaniacal despotic baby killing arsehole god to intervene. Not once.
Does this make me a better man than you? No. Just a bit more grip on reality – just and more balls.
There is still time.
You can become an atheist again and pay for your crime of being a gigantic dick for selling that guitar .
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Let it go, Ark – the guitar is history – it’ll eat you up if you don’t. There’ll be other guitars —
When I was a kid, I used to mow lawns, and I ran across an old “Model B” roadster, rusting in an old lady’s back yard. I bought it and sold it to a salvage yard for a small profit and thought I had pulled off a really big coup – if I had just had it hauled home and restored it, I’d have had a museum piece. You think I don’t kick myself on a regular basis, for letting that car go? I was a kid, and stupid is as stupid does.
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LOL! The drive to do anything comes God, that has been shown over & over again in my life, I definitely do not have a choice in anything I do, either the flesh makes me do evil, or the Holy Spirit makes me do right, and it is God that makes the choice in everything I do, all I am is a vessel to do what God has predestined me to do for His purpose, halleluYah !
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“I was full of anger & hate because I was led by the flesh” – No, no, no, that’s an easy out – if you were angry, it had to have been AT something. Something had to have triggered the anger, and Ark is asking what it was. I hate broccoli, and I don’t believe that it’s strictly because I’m “led by the flesh.”
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Hatred towards others comes from the flesh, I could not control my anger because I was controlled by the flesh, after I was born from above, the Holy Spirit controlled me & stopped me from hating others, without the Holy Spirit, I definitely could not stop hating others
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But you weren’t just arbitrarily angry at others – surely specific things made you angry, while others did not. What Ark is asking, is what specifically was it that made you angry.
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The flesh, the spirit of the natural man is what made me be angry, the spirit of the natural is evil, while the Holy Spirit is not, before I was born from above, I was led by the flesh, that’s what made me be angry, it’s a spiritual thing, not physical thing, nothing in this world could help me overcome the anger that was inside me
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Sorry, I am typing from a Tablet, it should say, “I couldn’t believe it, it was an absolute miracle that God had made happen”
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“I had found the answer to life” – It’s 42. I looked in the back of the book.
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42 ?
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Clearly you’ve never read the four books of the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy trilogy, have you?
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No, I have not 🙂
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Evidence is beginning to mount that you’ve lead a very sheltered life, yet another reason I object to religion, when someone devotes their life to following the dictates of an imaginary deity, instead of actually living it. I hate to see such a waste.
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LOL! I definitely have not lived a sheltered life, in fact, my life was pretty crazy, I partied a lot
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I just realised I already read your About page last year.
It must be senility, I am catching it off Arch.
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Ahem – near-eidetic memory here —
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BFA7 – someone once said that beneath all anger, lies fear – what were you afraid of?
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LOL! I don’t believe in the rapture, the rapture teaching is false, I believe everything in the New Testament is finished
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Good luck with that, and good luck with finding a mousy little woman that will let you lead her around by the nose, under the guise of “protecting” her. Now all she’ll need is protection from you.
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LOL! If I do get married I would treat my wife with respect, and lead her in a way that honors God, I would love her as Christ loved the church & died for her, I would die to self, & protect my wife as God leads me to 🙂
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Considering the circumstances, I’d say that’s a big IF.
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LOL! if it is God’s will for me to have a wife, it will happen, & if it is not God’s will, it won’t happen 🙂
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There is no rapture, those who are born from above, live on earth until it is time for them to die physically, & then their spirit goes back to be with God 🙂
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Mark says: “I would treat my wife with respect, and lead her in a way that honors God, I would love her as Christ loved the church & died for her, I would die to self, & protect my wife as God leads me to 🙂 “
Looky there. We agree on something.
“There is no rapture”
2 things.
“LOL! if it is God’s will for me to have a wife, it will happen, & if it is not God’s will, it won’t happen 🙂 “
3!!!!!
Too bad you have the wrong God. We just might get along better.
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LOL! Tiribulus, I believe Yeshua is the Christ (the Messiah), & by that belief that God has given to me, by the Holy Spirit that dwells in me, I don’t practice sin, therefore the God I believe in is the God of the Bible. HalleluYah ! 1 John 5:1 Everyone who believes that Yeshua is the Christ is born of God. 1 John 3:9 No one born of God practices sin.
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“Too bad you have the wrong God” – That’s a big problem, there are so many of them floating around out there. Hey, do you suppose they have their own air traffic control center?
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Okay , I am hanging out in the slow class today – a christian who has a different god
How does this work, Arch?
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I have no idea, my response was to Tiribulus – apparently he believes that he and BFA7 believe in different gods.
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So who does BFA7 believe is god?
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How should I know, it’s THEIR delusion – they subscribe, obviously, to somewhat different versions of the same BS, and T is maintaining BFA7’s god is somehow, due to those differences, a different god (“my god’s dick is bigger than your god’s dick,” or some such) – scroll up and read the conversation, I’m already defending you on the other blog, I can’t do it all for you. Jeeze, you’d think I took you to raise —
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what ”other blog” ?
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The one that remarkably continues to tolerate you:
https://thei535project.wordpress.com/2015/03/13/militant-atheism-is-not-entirely-unlike-a-mullet/
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Wow, he used the F word and didn’t even get censored, nevermind spammed! Someone loves the attention.
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Who used it? I didn’t use it – I’ve never used it on a blog.
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Your buddy, the angry one full of hate, whatshisname.
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Yeah, I agree – forgettable, isn’t he –?
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Oops – my bad – whichever one BFA7 is on, so I guess that’s this one.
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“Anyone spotting a jitter on the nonsense-o-meter (NOM)?” Hilarious! And yes, a major earthquake on the NOM! There is no external authority. Let the fools work out their logic the way they need to work it… There is no external authority, just you and your mortality. Cheers and thank you for a stimulating post!
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Missed this comment, my notifications seem to be a bit dodgy. Anyway, thanks! I’m glad someone liked my NOM?
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