when Black lives don’t matter
ThugLivesMatterBlackLivesMatter protesters? I’ll call them what they are, too: ASSCLOWNS.
Blogger VR Kaine is in a bit of a pickle about his recent post lambasting Black Lives Matter. I tried to do a response post to make him ashamed of his attitude but have only managed to elicit more yet disjointed rants about race relations in the USA, sprinkled with the kind of personal insults that only someone in a state of advanced cognitive dissonance could bother to spout.
No-one is beyond redemption. So, I thought it might be nice to try a new angle.
Black Lives Matter. As I understand it, the idea behind this movement is to raise awareness of the numbers of specifically Black people being killed and mistreated in the USA.
So, who doesn’t like this movement within the USA? Who thinks that Black lives don’t actually matter? Here are some of my suggestions:
- People who deny facts e.g. that loads more Black people are killed than anyone else in the USA; that loads more Black people are in prison; that Black people in the USA experience discrimination and racism on a regular basis.
- People who think any problems that Black people face are irrelevant – a combination of they don’t care, they don’t believe racism exists, or they think that Black people need to sort out ‘their own problems’ in a vacuum which isn’t related to other parts of society.
- People who blame Black people themselves for the disproportionate number of deaths among their numbers and the mistreatment they tend to face in American society i.e. it’s their fault, they bring it on themselves with their [insert racist insult] ways.
- People who don’t like movements that aren’t focused on the perspective of heterosexual men, given that: “Black Lives Matter affirms the lives of Black queer and trans folks, disabled folks, Black-undocumented folks, folks with records, women and all Black lives along the gender spectrum. It centers those that have been marginalized within Black liberation movements.” (blacklivesmatter.com/herstory/)
Any other theories would be gratefully received. I’m over the other side of the pond and I’d hate to be making sweeping generalisations or stabs in the dark that aren’t grounded in reality.
Just in case anybody cares, many of my thoughts in this area can be found HERE.
I care Tiribulus, but not enough to click on an external link to someone’s Facebook. Please feel free to leave your opinions on the actual post.
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Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization, a military arm of the Democrat Party, like the KKK used to be.
Having succeeded in rounding up poor blacks into concentration camps called, “The Projects” and inner city ghettos, the Democrat Party has started creating groups like Black Lives Matter to function as Brown Shirt thugs.
The objective being to instigate social unrest so as to engender hard core tyranny.
Do you really honestly belive all that, or are you just trying to “spice up” (trolling) the discussion? You are making some very lengthy conspiracy theories here, and while conspiracies are infact something we are able to recognize and verify in the real material universe, unlike unnatural miracles, before anyone should believe any of them, there should be at least some evidence presented to support them. Right?
How are you able to equate the brown shirts and the Black Lives Matter people? What are the similarities in their actions, as I see none, exept perhaps being an organized group of humans with a political agenda, but that in itself can hardly be called evil or even anything that would justify the comparrison you try to make.
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What I say is true.
Everything you believe in, everything you’ve been told, is a big fat lie.
In other words, you have no evidence? Does this mean there never was anything by wich you could have connected the brown shirts to the Black Lives Matter? Did you do it just to “paint them black”? Why?
You simply expect me to take your word about everything on faith? Is that how reality works for you? That there is someone who tells you what is true and what is not, and you believe them regardless of any evidence, or lack of it?
Look at the name: BLACK Lives Matter.
I didn’t paint their name black , THEY did.
And why don’t ALL lives matter?
Consequently, a name like BLACK Lives Matter is inherently racist.
Isn’t a bit hateful of you to blame me for the racism clearly exhibited by others?
@Silenceofmind, you are mistaken. Not because I say so, but because you have misunderstood the meaning of the term racist. Dictionaries give a couple of meanings for racism.
1. Poor treatment or violence against people because of their race
2. The belief that some races of people are better than others
Wich of these are the Black Lives Matter people guilty of? I can tell you that the brown shirts and the KKK were guilty of both and in a significant measure. Can we agree on that, at least?
Obviously, the name Black Lives Matter refer to the previous interpretation by challenging the factual poor treatment of people percieved to be “black” by race to the degree, as if their lives did not even matter. How is that so hard to grasp?
So, now that we cleared that up, do you still hold that the Black Lives Matter can be somehow equated to the extreme right wing conservative thugs called the brown shirts in Germany, or the KKK in the US?
Oh by the way, where did I ever blame you of racism? Do you have reading problems, or is it some sort of twisted guilty conscience of yours talking, when you assume, that I ever did blame you of racism?
Of course reading problems might explain why you have had trouble understanding the meaning of the word racism (among other things). If this misunderstanding on your part is all due to a personal handicap, please do accept my apologies. I for one, do not at all think having a handicap is shamefull at all.
I can appriciate it, that you would find racism an evil thing and at least we agree on that matter, though I would appriciate it all the more, if you one day learned what it actually means, so as to understand, not only that it is wrong, but also why it is evil.
Is that a widely held belief in the USA, SOM? Or is it just your personal conclusion? It sounds like the sort of kooky conspiracy theory that some sectors of your society would lap up.
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I very rarely give opinions.
What I say is truth, not a matter of belief.
Your leftist news sources are liars.
I’d be open to believing you, if it wasn’t for the fact that every time I check the news sources from “your” side, they’re complete nonsense. Take the links given by VR Kaine on the last post, or Bruce down below. It’s woeful that so many people are so happily dragged into allowing themselves to believe these things.
There is no “your side” and “my side” when it comes to the news.
There is only true or false.
The American Founding was based on fundamental “truths,” not your side, my side.
So how am I, an American interested in the truth, going to communicate with you, a leftist interested in your side, my side?
Good point SOM. What if your side, my side are the same side, upside?
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Your side believes lies.
My side seeks the truth.
Aristotle would say, “And never the twain shall meet!”
We are British. In the UK, you do not get shot for stealing cigarillos. I wondered if that was too allusive for a British blog, so I googled “stealing cigarillos” and guess what I found.
OK: another theory: people who are frightened of Black violence more than violence of other groups.
However, was it VR Kaine who shared an article showing that in particular situations, police are no more likely to shoot black people than white people- man reaching through car window for gun, etc. The theory was that it was because shooting a person has a cost for the police officer, which being rude, or searching someone, does not.
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Many European countries, like yours and mine, have a variety of immigrants from various different countries, many European countries, like yours and mine, have a variety of local ethnic groups who have lived there for ever. In Britain, there are for example the Welsh and in Finland we have the Saami. It is notable, that both of our countries have a history of segragation, racism, and in the case of Finland at least even eugenics, but both of our countries have been rapidly grown over such, and I think to a lesser degree we still struggle with the shadows of our past as the change has been too fast for some large crowds of people in both of our countries.
The US is not so different as a western nation from either of ours. It is a nation of immigrants, and it was founded by radicals, even though it seems a good portion of them have not really grasped either of these facts. Some of them are even in denial of their racistic history just like some people in both of our countries, yours and mine, are.
I Think, when the poorly trained US police overreacts, and sometimes understandably, because so many people carry guns, be those legal or illegal items, and have a low cultural treshold to use them (both citizens and the police) and because their culture is prone to make people desperate as it promises as the ideal a social rise, wich is near to impossible to access for almost anybody, the history of racism and the shadow of it still affecting people presents itself.
I only have the limited scope of an outsider to the US gun culture, but it seems to me very much in this case that from outside it is easier for me and you to percieve the more objective side of things, than it is to many who have and have to live in their society, simply because we can compare it to our own. While many who live in the US culture have no experience and indeed even a more limited scope on what happens outside their culture than we have on what happens within theirs as a result of theirs being so overwhelmingly in offer to the rest of the world. Such a case of cultural exchange being onesided, leads to the people of the US to have this misconception of their own culture being some sort of navel and norm of human reality. On the other hand we on the outside may too often only see the people from US who have the most limited scope and do the most extreme things or present the most extreme opinions, while there are those who are aware of the rest of the world and do struggle for a change for the better.
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Did you know that all immigration to the United States was outlawed from about 1920 to 1965?
That wasn’t because immigration was bad, it was because the 10’s of millions of legal immigrants needed time to become Americans.
“In the UK, you do not get shot for stealing cigarillos.” As that sinks in, I realised how odd the USA is. We don’t get shot for anything here. We don’t even get killed if we commit an atrocity. Do we take the right to life much more seriously than in the USA? Americans seem a lot more concerned about their rights to guns, and this nebulous ‘freedom’ that involves never leaving your country, spending your whole life panicking about money, and feeling comfortable about fellow citizens getting killed for behaving and looking the ‘wrong’ way. I feel frustration. I’m actually a dual citizen.
“people who are frightened of Black violence more than violence of other groups”
I’m not sure how that would work. Is it not similar to blaming Black people because of [insert racist insult]? They’re frightened because they some racist misconception about what having different coloured skin means.
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The notion that the police killed someone for selling cigarillos is yet another lie that you and others have swallowed hook, line and sinker.
Stealing cigarillos, wasn’t it? That was the start of his interaction with the police. The point is that there is no way a chain of events starting with something so minor that could lead to someone being killed over here, because the police don’t have guns, people on the street don’t have guns. No amount of confusion over what was happening could lead to someone being killed. It’s the deadliness of the escalation because lethal weapons are so easy to acquire that’s the problem.
It isn’t theory.
Police have strict protocols on the use of force.
“Any other theories would be gratefully received. I’m over the other side of the pond and I’d hate to be making sweeping generalisations or stabs in the dark that aren’t grounded in reality.”
Oh come now Violet, since when has making sweeping generalizations not grounded in reality ever bothered you?
You know, there is a differenfe between all of us sometimes making sweeping generalizations and recognizing it is a problem not only in others but in ourselves as well.
It doesn’t bother me at all, but I do like to be corrected if there’s evidence to the contrary. Happen to have any?
Sweeping generalizations like God created the Universe and humans must follow Jesus or burn in hell for eternity?
There is a very good reason your Gravitar contains the word ”insanity” and a considerable number of people don’t smile at it any more, but rather consider the implications.
Maybe you should too?
If I were the lady you are addressing here, I would hesitate to answer such blatant ignorance, lest others get the impression your comment appears credible. It is not of course.
Perhaps you should instruct all the wayward, and do tell how your own mother is the model example of what it means to be christian, while you despise everyone else who makes the same claim…..oh wait I forgot, one can be a fine ‘christian’ as long as they ‘keep it to themselves, and do not promote the fact that Christ rose from the dead………according to the scriptures……….’
Didn’t think so, as the little stone god slinks away and crawls under a rock for promoting such bias and irrational thought.
And btw, perhaps you should try other fountains rather than the waters of jealousy; you could only wish you had the understanding, insight and gift of wisdom that tears to shreds your delusions of a world NOT created by God.
That’s right: jealousy. The wisdom from God is first pure, and herein lies your issue with believers in general, and the woman here in particular.
Oh, hello, Colorstorm, how the hell are you old boy?
Ah yes, how am I?
Let’s see, with wars to and fro, and rumours of wars looming, with earthquakes in many places, with the confederacy of nations aligning, with is-lam on the prowl, with thieves plying their craft, with false brethren hawking their goods, with atheists squawking over God, with fear taking hold of many, with millions serving the god of mammon, yet in all this, many still see a good God above all, and yep, I am one of many, which makes me ‘fine.’
God still controls the light of the moon, He gives rain as it pleases Him, He offers grace to one and all, and He is extremely patient and long suffering.
He says ‘all lives matter,’ and I agree. But tkx for asking.
My pleasure. Stay well.
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Yikes ark. Some might think a vase fell off a shelf and popped you in the head for such a civil comment!
Say it: ‘You almost persuaded me to become a christian…………….’
You are not far from the kingdom of God. How so?
‘In Him we live and move and have our being.’
But well wishes to you as well; (and do consider that express image in the camera which is seen by faith………….. 😉
(Hey violet, the seeds of life are growing in your garden. Love it)
Oh, yes, I am almost ready to turn myself over to god. I am busy reading up on gods as we ”speak” in fact. Only 7,000 of the current batch to go.
( then I have to tackle the Indian ones).
This may take a while. As you were …
7,000? Why cut yourself short? There must be 70,000, all part of the great pretenders……
Just focus on the One, all the false ones will disappear like dust in the wind.
Just think of all time you will have left over……… I’m tellin ya, the answer is seen in the image in the camera……
(with a nod and a wink to Violet once more)
Oh, I know there are a lot. If you read my comment carefully, something you are often quite lax about I notice, you will have read I implied as such.
I did read up/study on the Middle Eastern Canaanite desert god you worship and found him decidedly lacking in the empathy department.
In fact, reading some of his dealings with humanity he comes across as …not to put too fine a point on it, and excuse my French … Un giant farking nob.
Is there a god you could recommend who does not have such heinous violent tendencies?
Can you hear the heavy sighs?
As you are wont, you see things backwards and without context. God has violent tendencies eh? It appears something has escaped your notice.
Cain. Yep, that rascal Cain. Where pray tell did he get the idea to exact such a ‘heinous and violent tendency’ to slay his brother? WHERE? Hmmm? WHERE?
Apparently, and in the spirit of this post, his brothers life did not matter…….
So you conveniently ignore this ‘bad’ seed and the effects on the human race, then you blame God. Not too smart. It is YOU who are on trial, not the Creator.
Worth repeating: It is YOU who are on trial, not the Creator who stands perfect in all His ways.
(And you really should not handle sharp objects such as the Old Testament, as your hands appear rather bloody with ignorance)
Aaah, but it is crucial to bear in mind that we are talking about geopolitical fiction, Colorstorm. Fair enough, I give no more credence to the monkey god, Hanuman, than I do to the Middle Eastern desert god you genuflect to; both are man-made.
Thus while you regale us with your Biblical tales you must know I find nothing of any worth in the text they derive from. Nothing at all.
As for a Creator… well now, that is another barrel of apples altogether and neither you or I can say yay or nay one way or another.
It is worth repeating, yo have yet to provided verifiable/falsifiable evidence for a ”Creator”.
(And you really should not handle certain objects while you type as those Church Patriarchs in charge of refining and defining the Old and especially the New Testament suggest you will go blind – with ignorance) .
The real agenda for the “Black Lives Matter” movement is filled with hatred and violence… They march in protest of how the police are treating them, and promote violence… With the hundreds of blacks killed in Chicago every year, mostly by other blacks…you don’t hear about their deaths… If black lives matter, why don’t their lives matter ??
Look at the first of these videos to see the violence of people who join this movement…
Look at the now 10 police that have been gunned down (8 in the last few weeks), and yet the leader of the Black lives Matter” movement won’t stand up and tell his people enough is enough !!
Hi Bruce, thanks for stopping by with your comment and supporting info. I’ve watched the first part of the first video and will catch up with the rest later on today. My initial thoughts are it reminds of the supporting ‘evidence’ that VR Kaine sourced. There are individuals saying horrible things, a long section with what looks like a confused school kid ranting about white privilege, more individuals saying horrible things – does this sum up the whole movement? Of course it doesn’t! The vast majority of people are protesting peacefully, yet it’s only the comments and attitudes of a limited number of individuals, many of whom aren’t even directly involved in BLM, that are being used to smear it. I think it’s really sad that so many people like you are more than willing to accept this is the face of the movement, when it clearly isn’t.
I think it’s wrong to say their agenda is filled with hatred and violence because you’ve watched some clips of mainly unaffiliated individuals ranting. Read this:
“Look at the now 10 police that have been gunned down (8 in the last few weeks), and yet the leader of the Black lives Matter” movement won’t stand up and tell his people enough is enough !!”
Em, are the leaders of BLM not three women? Do you actually know anything about it? A statement from their site after the Dallas shooting:
I don’t think you can take something so complex and boil it down like this.
BLM is mostly about white (or police) on black violence, which is statistically negligible.
That having been said, lots of forms of violence are statistically negligible but we demand action to stop it. I am more likely to be struck by lightning than to be a victim of violent crime, much more likely to be killed by a mugger than be the victim of terrorism, but I loudly demand the government take steps to stop terrorism because I don’t expect the government to control the weather, accept the fact that there is little the government can do to stop ordinary crime before it happens, but think it is the government’s job is to stop terrorism before it happens.
SoM above compares BLM to the KKK. It sounds exaggerated but the comparison does have some merit: a century ago white on white crime, and white on black crime were much more common than black on white crime, but the KKK would get all up in arms over black on white crime (real or imagined) because it upset the expected social order and was also an opportunity to enforce the social order through lynchings. Moreover, the KKK was pretty much what SoM called, the militant wing of the Democratic party. BLM also serves a political purpose of whipping up the black vote through racial paranoia. I don’t think it is an accident that these things always blow up in election years.
Maybe a closer comparison would be between BLM and Trump supporters. Working class whites put an exaggerated blame on trade with China and immigration for their woes. While there might be something to be said for more protectionism and it is obvious that mass migration drives down the value of labor, white kids are not a bunch of heroin addicts and welfare queens because of something China or Mexico did. It is a form of deflection, attributing internal problems to an external boogeyman. White cops do not make black teens murder each other.
I think it is wrong however to blame BLM for the actions of unbalanced individuals. Rhetoric does not cause violence. Screwballs and weirdos are attracted to all sorts of movements.
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In South Africa during Apartheid police brutality against non-white South Africans was almost de rigeur, and this is an undisputed fact. It was utterly horrendous. Animals were often treated better.
If you have ever read Riotous Assembly by Tom Sharpe you will know his biting satire often reflects an underlying truth of the way the black man was/has always been treated/regarded.
In Riotous Assembly the Police Kommandant, van Heerden, assures an elderly white woman who shoots and kills her black cook that it can never be regarded as murder.
Research the number of white convictions in comparison to black convictions in South Africa during Apartheid for the same crime.
Growing up in England, I never ever felt the need to stand up and say I have been ”picked on” because I am white.
Even living in S.A. for all this time it would still seem like an anomaly to me. Though I am aware of B.E.E. I have never encountered it on a personal level.
Since democracy, the violence in South Africa has changed focus, but there is still an element of racist motivation in many crimes.
If black Americans are up in arms then maybe it’s about time, once and for all , to consider the reasons, historical and current, and start to deal with them?
Black Americans are not up in arms, a couple of sociopaths went on rampages.
There is a sizable segment of American society (white, rich and puritan) that spends entirely too much time hand-wringing about race to no effect.
My mistake. So there is no problem then?
No, but seeing as how the same categories of racial paranoia have been thrown around for years to no effect, the most likely thing is that new categories are needed.
So how do you think this needs to be approached?
What sort of new category had you in mind?
Speaking as an outsider and not wanting be condescending, I’d think the category of community might be useful. Does “the black community” exit? Does it deserve to exist as a distinct community? How is it really different from analogous white communities? What are the ideals, goals, etc. How does it achieve cohesion, and what is good and bad about that? What are its pathologies? Why does it vote the way it does, and why doesn’t voting that way work? How does it understand economics?
Should one not address historical treatment/ relations first?
Consider the native Americans as the perfect example.
To my mind, such self examination should/would play a major role in how all non-white people who have had to/come to live among white communities.
Should the focus of attention not be inward first and foremost and pertinent questions asked of ourselves – white people – and how we have, as ‘conquerors/colonialists’ have, in the main, treated people of other colour?
By that logic black people should be thanking me because my proto-American ancestor was killed fighting for the Union at Fredricksburg.
The problem with white guilt is that it is not about addressing real historical circumstances – i.e. downscale communities that are suffering now. I get that having lost their faith in Calvinism white Americans need a reason to hate themselves but the fact is they are not responsible.
But the guilt IS useful for exacting political rents.
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So what do you consider would be the most effective way to address this issue?
Then how can you, in all honesty, hold any sort of opinion on the matter if you don’t at least have some sort of solution to the problem?
What is dishonest about speculating and then admitting what one doesn’t know?
Because it suggests a certain amount of disconnect. If you are interested enough to believe you have identified the root cause then one would have though you might extend yourself a little and consider a solution.
Your response gives the impression that it is ”not my problem.”
I never said I identified the root cause of anything, I suggested a possible approach.
I’m not going to lecture black people on what they should think and do, and not being a Puritan I am not going to engage in self-loathing for things I didn’t do.
I never suggested you lecture anyone, but you raised several issues , and asked a few (rhetorical?) questions/points including the ‘guilt trip’ , which you appeared ( to me) to deliver in a snide manner.
If you feel you have ”no idea” why do you feel the need/desire to voice an opinion?
My ideas on the matter are partial and incomplete. Doesn’t mean I can’t express them.
Then at least share with us your partial ideas. That way you will at least come across as willing to be par of the solution rather than historically part of the problem.
I shared them above.
This is boring. Cheerio or whatever you people say.
You did not share any sort of solution, as far as I can tell.
“So what do you consider would be the most effective way to address this issue?”
What if there is no way?
Well, the original settlers/colonialists of the ”New World” thought genocide and slavery were the answer to all their problems and look how that turned out?
If you have the imagination to conceive an omniscient god, surely you can spare a little grey matter to ponder the all-round benefits of a society where there is only one race – the human, and colour is simply a pigment.
Or is that a tad too difficult?
If you’re really interested read Ark THIS sub-thread please.
It would be difficult to reproduce over here. I have a feeling you won’t agree with anything I say there.
I am not quite sure of the point the thread is trying make. I clicked on the link on the photo, is the article by Kevin Roose what I was supposed to read?
I read some of it, but it got a bit long winded for me.
Could you rather just give me the short version? Please be specific.
Sorry man, that permalink didn’t work right. Hang on.
I don’t have time to clean it up any better than THIS now. Sorry.
You folks haven’t had the occasion to snicker and sneer at my idiocy for a while, so I thought I would graciously provide you that opportunity.
Yeah, fine. It looks like a long conversation. What is the point you are trying to make? Simply express it. How difficult can that be, rather than me trying to disseminate some sort of message?
I’ve read down through the utter nonsense. There’s a women who’s taken the time to think about her own prejudice and privilege within the USA as an attractive White women, and in discussion with people realises that experiences of all Americans are not the same – that there is real discrimination, often rooted in fear, that is profoundly affecting the lives of Black Americans. She shares this (presumably on Facebook) and Tiribulus (aka Greg) tells her she knows nothing about Black people because he’s (frighteningly) gone through her Facebook with a fine-tooth comb and concluded she doesn’t know enough Black people to have an opinion. He then goes on to say that his church is 99% Black people therefore he knows everything about this, and that his pastor hates BLM because it was set up by three queer women (not heterosexual men) and is therefore sinful.
Serious! Well you have more patience than me. I skimmed one or two comments and picked up nothing but when I glimpsed things to do with god etc I bailed.
“My pastor’s views are still developing (which is not the same undeveloped) on all the related issues, but yesterday he explicitly denounced “Black Lives Matter” as an ungodly secular movement whose objectives are at mortal odds with the biblical mission of the church and exhorted his congregation to stay away. He also rejects critical race theory (And feminism) as a destructive and divisive worldly philosophy also unsupported by the scriptures. ”
Critical race theory – “First, CRT proposes that white supremacy and racial power are maintained over time, and in particular, that the law may play a role in this process. Second, CRT work has investigated the possibility of transforming the relationship between law and racial power, and more broadly, pursues a project of achieving racial emancipation and anti-subordination.”
Essentially his pastor things there is no such thing as racism or sexism. And anyone who complains about either is an evil pagan.
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Hilarious! Well he did say this was an opportunity to sneer at his idiocy.
He just wanted us to work for it! 🙂
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Now we know why Tiribulus was too scared to start a thread with his actual views. He just dropped a link to pump up his hits. 🙂
“Now we know why Tiribulus was too scared to start a thread with his actual views. He just dropped a link to pump up his hits.”
You’re not much of a computer person are you Violet? That’s doesn’t make you a dummy, it just means you’re not much of a computer person.
That’s a stand alone HTML file/page. What hits exactly would I be pumping up with that? WordPress will not render than code in the combox. So I reproduced it in a single HTML file and stuck it in a folder on my server with a few dozen other stand alone HTML files.
There is no hit count on stand alone HTML files. Nobody except you guys will probably ever see it.
I mean just for your own satisfaction Tiribulus. I doubt you get much traffic. 🙂
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“I mean just for your own satisfaction Tiribulus. I doubt you get much traffic”
I’m not sure how you translate a stand alone web page into traffic, but I have never, nor do I still make any effort whatsoever to get “traffic.” on any of my web resources. They are tools, and very good ones for what I use them for.
Surely you can find better things than this to make fun of me for? Lemme know how I can help.
Indeed. Do you agree with your pastor that BLM is bad because it was set up by three queer feminist women? Do you think in principle that the idea of taking time to acknowledge that Black people’s deaths are overlooked, and taken for granted, is somehow flawed? Should people not sit up and pay attention? Should they not campaign for awareness and push for change?
I agree with my pastor that BLM is not really about black lives at all, but is simply an opportunistic instrument of the radical subversive left to advance a morally libertine, Marxist agenda that’s been around since at least Saul Alinsky.
Their goals are utterly repugnant to all of the historically orthodox Christian religion. Which historically orthodox Christian religion, does not include the equally repugnant anti-biblical racist practices of the past that were themselves corruptions of said historically orthodox Christian religion.
No biblically sound Christian needs to be told that black lives matter. It’s a theological reality that goes without saying.
Everything you will likely ever ask me is in the live THREAD
All I care about is the word and will of the one true and living God, which is found only in the ancient Christian scriptures. He is right because He is God and we are wrong because we are not.
There no real solutui9ns to any of this in Adam’s world. True and lasting “justice” is found in Christ and Him alone. Tragically, those calling themselves Christians today, especially in the west, largely have no idea what it means to live separate holy lives unto Him and to model His love to all nations kindreds and tongues.
The United States of America and the American “dream” is the worst thing that ever happened to the gospel. The most corrosive and crippling influence on the church in history.
I tend to see it the other way around and consider the American people – all people in fact – would be far better of without the drivel found between the covers of that revolting text called the bible.
I am sure most Native Americans, ( those that managed to avoid the filth of christian religious indoctrination) North and South probably feel the same way.
Have a nice day …. y’all.